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Here are some articles on driving in snowy conditions. For those who live in the mountains or visit them frequently during the winter, I want you to please share your preparation for a winter trip.
Have you gotten stuck in the snow waiting out a storm at a pass or while heading to a trailhead? Please share your winter driving stories.


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Before Heading for Snow Country:


Make sure your brakes, windshield wipers,defroster, heater and exhaust system are in top condition.

Check your antifreeze and be ready for colder temperatures. You may want to add special solvent to your windshield washer reservoir to prevent icing.

Check your tires. Make sure they are properly inflated and the tread is in good condition.

Always carry chains. Make sure they are the proper size for your tires and are in working order. Carry a flashlight and chain repair links. Chains must be installed on the drive wheels. Make sure you know if your vehicle is front or rear wheel drive.

Other suggested items to carry in your car are an ice scraper or commercial deicer, a broom for brushing snow off your car, a shovel to free your car if it's "snowed in," sand or burlap for traction if your wheels should become mired in snow; and an old towel to clean your hands.

It is also a good idea to take along water, food, warm blankets and extra clothing. A lengthy delay will make you glad you have them.

Put an extra car key in your pocket. A number of motorists have locked themselves out of their cars when putting on chains and at ski areas.

Allow enough time. Trips to the mountains can take longer during winter than other times of year, especially if you encounter storm conditions or icy roads. Get an early start and allow plenty of time to reach your destination.

Keep windshield and windows clear. You may want to stop at a safe turnout to use a snow or, ice or scraper. Use the car defroster and a clean cloth to keep the windows free of fog.

Slow down. A highway speed of 55 miles an hour may be safe in dry weather - but an invitation for trouble on snow and ice. Snow and ice make stopping distances much longer, so keep your seat belt buckled and leave more distance between your vehicle and the vehicle ahead. Bridge decks and shady spots can be icy when other areas are not. Remember to avoid sudden stops and quick direction changes.

Be more observant. Visibility is often limited in winter by weather conditions. Slow down and watch for other vehicles and for snow equipment. Even though snow removal vehicles have flashing lights, visibility may be so restricted during a storm that it is difficult to see the slow moving equipment.

When stalled, stay with your vehicle and try to conserve fuel while maintaining warmth. Be alert to any possible exhaust or monoxide problems.




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Cold Weather Driving Tips

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- Keep a bundle of cold-weather gear in your car, such as extra food and water, warm clothing, a flashlight, a glass scraper, blankets, medications, and more.
- Make certain your tires are properly inflated and have plenty of tread.
- Keep at least half a tank of fuel in your vehicle at all times.
- Never warm up a vehicle in an enclosed area, such as a garage.
- Do not use cruise control when driving on any slippery surface, such as on ice and snow.


Tips for Driving in the Snow


-Drive slowly. Always adjust your speed down to account for lower traction when driving on snow or ice.
- Accelerate and decelerate slowly. Apply the gas slowly to regain traction and avoid skids. Don’t try to get moving in a hurry and take time to slow down for a stoplight. Remember: It takes longer to slow down on icy roads.
- Increase your following distance to five to six seconds. This increased margin of safety will provide the longer distance needed if you have to stop.
- Know your brakes. Whether you have antilock brakes or not, keep the heel of your foot on the floor and use the ball of your foot to apply firm, steady pressure on the brake pedal.
- Don’t stop if you can avoid it. There’s a big difference in the amount of inertia it takes to start moving from a full stop versus how much it takes to get moving while still rolling. If you can slow down enough to keep rolling until a traffic light changes, do it.
- Don’t power up hills. Applying extra gas on snow-covered roads will just make your wheels spin. Try to get a little inertia going before you reach the hill and let that inertia carry you to the top. As you reach the crest of the hill, reduce your speed and proceed downhill slowly.
- Don’t stop going up a hill. There’s nothing worse than trying to get moving up a hill on an icy road. Get some inertia going on a flat roadway before you take on the hill.


Tips for Long-Distance Winter Trips

- Be Prepared: Have your vehicle checked by a AAA Approved Auto Repair facility before hitting the road.
- Check the Weather: Check the weather along your route and when possible, delay your trip if bad weather is expected.
- Stay Connected: Before hitting the road, notify others and let them know your route, destination and estimated time of arrival.

If you get stuck in the snow:
-Stay with your vehicle: Your vehicle provides temporary shelter and makes it easier for rescuers to locate you. Do not try to walk in a severe storm. It is easy to lose sight of your vehicle in blowing snow and become lost.
-Don’t over exert yourself: When digging out your vehicle, listen to your body and stop if you become tired.
- Be Visible: Tie a brightly colored cloth to the antenna of your vehicle or place a cloth at the top of a rolled up window to signal distress. At night, keep the dome light on if possible. It only uses a small amount of electricity and will make it easier for rescuers to find you.
-Clear the Exhaust Pipe: Make sure the exhaust pipe is not clogged with snow, ice or mud. A blocked exhaust pipe can cause deadly carbon monoxide gas to leak into the passenger compartment of the vehicle while the engine is running.
-Stay Warm: Use whatever is available to insulate your body from the cold. This could include floor mats, newspapers or paper maps. Pre-pack blankets and heavy clothing to use in case of an emergency.
-Conserve Fuel: If possible, only run the engine and heater long enough to remove the chill. This will help to conserve fuel.


Car and Driver:
How to Drive in Snow Safely


If you live where the snow flies, you've seen overconfident drivers blow by you on a snowy road and wondered if—and maybe even secretly hoped—they'd end up in a ditch. Whether they did or not, one thing's for sure: you don't want to be that person.

And you don't have to be. Years of driving and testing cars (and winter tires) in wintry conditions have taught us that following these nine simple winter-driving rules will greatly improve your chances of arriving at your destination calm, collected, comfortable, and—most important—safe.

1. Drive Super Smoothly

The key to safe driving in snow is being smooth with the steering wheel, accelerator, and brakes. Why? Jerky movements with the controls easily unstick tires that have a tenuous grip on the slippery road, so every turn of the wheel, push of the brakes, and movement of the throttle must be deliberate, gentle, and gradual. Pretend there's a cup of scalding coffee in your lap and drive so as not to spill it.

2. Look Far Ahead

The slipperier it gets, the farther down the road you should look—and think. Anticipate what you'll need to do next. Slow way down for turns. Allow double the stopping distance when the road is wet, triple on snow, and even more on ice. Driving carefully and safely takes extra concentration.

3. Heed the Flashing Lights

How much traction do you actually have on a snowy road? One way to know before you get into trouble is to understand what one particular small, amber, flashing light in the instrument cluster means. (It's an outline of a car with squiggly lines behind it.) If you're accelerating in a straight line and this light is blinking, this is the stability-control system warning you that the wheels that drive the car are slipping. Heed it. And ease up on the accelerator so the tires regain their grip.

If you're turning and see a blinking amber light, this is also the stability-control system alerting you that the car is beginning to slide from your intended path. Again, ease back on the accelerator until you are no longer applying any throttle; this allows the car to regain grip. And do not accelerate aggressively when turning tight corners in town on snowy or slushy streets. Always ease into the accelerator so that nothing untoward happens abruptly.

4. Look Here!

If you feel your car beginning to skid, always, always, look where you want to go—not where the car is heading at that precise moment. Let your peripheral vision take care of whatever you're trying to avoid. Racing drivers know that you almost always end up where you are looking; that's one of the reasons they're so good at recovering from skids.

5. Deal with the Skids


Sooner or later you will hit a slick spot and get a queasy feeling in the pit of your stomach as your car starts to slide away from the direction in which you want to be heading. Skids, even big ones, can be managed, and you can bring the car back under full control in short order. First, don't panic—and don't stab the brakes! Instead, do the following:

For a front-wheel skid—where the front tires lose grip and the car turns in a wider arc than you expect—ease off the gas. In a beat or two, the front tires should regain traction. Then aim where you want to go as your traction returns.

For a rear-wheel skid—where the rear tires lose traction and you feel yourself beginning to spin out—quickly turn the steering wheel in the same direction that the rear is sliding. If, say, the rear is swinging to the left, turn the wheel to the left. Ease off the accelerator and stay off the brakes. As the rear wheels regain traction, steer back in the original direction.
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No matter which type of skid you're experiencing, make sure you keep your wheels pointed in the direction you want to be going. And you can gently (remember point number one) use your brakes if you think you can recover without hitting anything. If an impact is imminent, don't be afraid to stand on the brake pedal as described in point number six.

6. Use Your Anti-Lock Brakes This Way


If all else fails and you need to stop as quickly as possible in snow or on ice, it's time to engage the help of your car's anti-lock-brake system (ABS). All new vehicles on the road today are equipped with anti-lock brakes, which use an onboard computer to optimize the car's braking in extreme conditions. If you are in a skid from which you can't recover or you need to avoid an obstacle—and your vehicle has ABS—push the brake pedal down hard, and don't let up. The computer will do the rest, keeping each wheel braking as aggressively as possible based on the available traction.

The amazing thing about ABS systems is that you can keep the brake pedal fully depressed while steering around obstacles; the computer will adjust the braking force at each wheel to allow you to maneuver while simultaneously slowing down. So in an emergency, don't just jam on the brakes—keep steering!

No safety system can ensure you avoid all accidents, but anti-lock brakes undoubtedly have saved many drivers from disaster. Note: most ABS systems cause the brake pedal to shudder when they activate to let you know they're working, so don't lift off the brakes when you feel this vibration; it's perfectly normal.

7. Constantly Assess Your Traction


In the course of almost any snowy drive, your available traction will ebb and flow as road and weather conditions change along the route. In addition to the warning lights from the traction-control and stability-control systems, your anti-lock-brake system can help you assess how much grip you have on snow-covered roads. Here's how: Make sure there are no cars close to you, then apply the brakes gently for a second or two while driving in a straight line. If you feel the brake pedal chattering underfoot but detect minimal deceleration, the ABS system has activated, and you can rest assured the road beneath your tires is very slick. If you can slow down at a reasonable rate without ABS activating, you're on a more grippy surface. Once again, be sure there are no other cars around you that will be bothered by your unexpected slowing. Some anti-lock-brake systems will also flash a small amber light in the instrument cluster while ABS is working, so this can be another clue to low traction when you are brake-testing for grip.

8. Beware All-Wheel Drive

Vehicles equipped with all-wheel drive or four-wheel drive can lull you into a false sense of security on slick roads. They send their power to all four wheels rather than just two, which on slippery surfaces enables impressive, slip-free acceleration, especially from rest— which can make it feel as if you have much more traction than you actually do. Don't be fooled; these systems don't in any way improve your vehicle's ability to turn or stop in snowy conditions, so expect it to behave just like any other "normal" vehicle when you push on the brake pedal or turn the steering wheel. If you want to assess how much traction you have, you can employ the technique described in the previous step.

9. Fit Winter Tires

Technically this isn't a driving tip—it's a survival tip. That's because fitting a set of four winter tires (more commonly called "snow tires") is actually the best thing you can do to improve your safety margin and reduce your anxiety level on those awful snow-covered roads. Proper winter tires provide far more traction in snow, slush, and on ice than even the best set of all-season tires. We at Car and Driver test winter tires and install them on all of our long-term vehicles, and we have some top suggestions for your vehicle.

10. Read the Road

Is the surface shiny or dull? Is there a uniform coating of powder, or bare spots interspersed with snow in the shade? Is the temperature cold enough to ensure crunchy, light, snow, or is it warm enough to create a slushy mess? While you can stop the car and get out to assess the surface if you're in doubt (and that's not a bad idea), you can learn a lot about available traction just by knowing what you're looking at. In general, shiny is bad, since that means either ice or water. Shady spots are deceptive, since dry pavement ahead of them can lead to a false sense of security. And dry snow is much better than slushy slop. Dry snow actually offers pretty good traction—think of the crunch beneath your boots—whereas slush behaves like deep water, with the tires riding up on top of it.

11. Plan Ahead


We already mentioned looking as far ahead as possible, and that's a good idea in general. But chances are, you're driving in familiar territory, so you can use that knowledge to your advantage, too. When you head down that hill, is there an equal climb on on the other side of the valley? Maybe conserve momentum for that. Is there an off-camber downhill left a quarter-mile away? You don't have to wait till you see it to slow down. If you know what's coming, drive like you're your own rally navigator and think a few steps ahead.

12. Carry the Right Supplies


There've been times—usually when we're halfway through relocating a snowbank with our hands—that we've declared that we'd pay $500 for a snow shovel. The better solution is to throw one in your car before you leave, along with a bag of salt and a tow strap. If you're really concerned about your winter trek, you can get your tow eye ready, too. The tow eye screws into a threaded socket (usually behind a square plastic cover that pops out of the bumper) and can be used to attach a tow strap to vehicles that don't have a hitch or bumper-mounted tow hooks. The tow eye is usually under the rear cargo floor, with the spare tire, so if you think you need it, don't stack a quarter-cord of firewood back there before you set off.
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Great read. Lots of text.

Something for consideration. Today's fancy vehicles have tons of computers helping the driver keep the vehicle pointed in the intended direction of travel. AWD and 4WD in vehicles does not give carte blanche to be able to remain driving at usual speeds. During snowing and icy conditions you really need to slow down. If you're not familiar with a particular road in summer, then you really should take extra precautions. Inertia is a real thing. Really. I stopped counting vehicles off the side of roads long ago. Chains are useful for all vehicles, even if you have M/S tires. I grew up in Reno/Tahoe when we used to get good storms all the time. Chains and 4WD (not chains or 4WD) conditions a fair amount were common. I'm now in SoCal where few have experience in real winter conditions and it's obvious from driving habits that they are overdependent on the tech in the vehicle (even in summer offroading).

Winter driving supplies. Always have inside your vehicle - Blanket, emergency blanket (tinfoil type), water, food/snacks, flares. Shovels are situational depending on where you're going. Chains, perhaps - per CA law you're supposed to have them in winter conditions regardless of whether you have 4WD or not...

The best advice I can give is know what you're driving into; do you really need to be on the road? As this being a recreational forum, ask yourself if you have a case of summit fever or can your trip be delayed by a day or be cancelled?
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A bag of gravel helps as well. Got my VW SportWagen stuck in the mud as It was parked on the clay soil and the water level was high.
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Flat landers stay home!!!!! Only kidding. Mostly.....

Living in the mountains between the Bay Area and Tahoe is a wonderful thing 95% of the time, but when Hwy 50, 70, 80 and 88 are all closed it does present some interesting challenges. The majority of folks are prepared for winter weather and delays, but the relatively few who aren't leave a pretty hefty foot print. Having a plan on what you're going to do if the roads are impassable is important, but doesn't necessarily make the priority list for everyone who's focused on making sure they've got holiday gifts, kids, skis and getting out the door. Make a mental checklist of what forecast in your mind dictates you're not going to make the trip, you're going to delay your trip, or where you're going to stay if you can't get through. Having the best 4WD, studded snow tires, chains, locking differentials, etc., doesn't do you any good when the highway's closed, or your stuck in traffic. There are times when you simply can't get through, so figure out what level of comfort or sacrifice you're willing to live with, and face reality. Staying home is better than traveling two hours only to turn around and drive that same two hours back home. Sleeping in a park & ride is a viable option if you've got food, water and sleeping bags. Parking on the side of (or in) the road waiting for traffic to move isn't. Neither is taking that secret back road you heard about, or saw on your GPS. (Had a semi truck yesterday get stuck and block traffic for two hours trying to go to Mormon Emigrant Trail, which is closed every winter, closed from the fire and literally has 15' of snow on it at the top. Yes he said he saw it on his GPS).

Christmas night had Hwy 50 closed, and local roads blocked by folks who simply didn't know what to do. After some gentle coaxing, more than a few choice "Holiday wishes" and CHP issuing tickets for folks blocking roadway, many well intentioned travelers unfortunately got to spend their holiday driving back home while family, vacation rentals and lots of plans went without. I actually spoke with a family parked in the local roadway with their turn signal on, waiting for the highway on-ramp to open. I mentioned that probably wouldn't happen for a couple days. "We'll wait" was the response. They were actually a nice family with young kids trying to get to the grandparents house who just didn't know what to do. I suggested the 200 cars grid locked behind them might not like that plan, and they said they honestly didn't realize it was creating such a problem and turned around and went back down the hill.

On a similar note, having patient and understanding mind set towards others is just as important. No one wants to get stuck, block roads or need help, but it happens. If it hasn't happened to you, you either don't drive in it much, or your time is coming. A simple waive, do you need a hand, or actually helping dig/push/pull someone out of a predicament goes a long way. It not only is the right thing to do, but it also gets you past the hold up faster. Happy to admit it's easier to preach than practice, but every little bit helps.

Moral of the story:

"Have a plan"
"Have some patience"
"Be a part of the solution"

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"Get Off My Lawn!!!"

Depending on how your day's going.

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fishwrong wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:40 pm Living in the mountains between the Bay Area and Tahoe
Consider yourself lucky you weren't up here.
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Gee no one mentioned this but be extra conservative going downhill on snow and ice covered roads. Going uphill you will eventually stop if you take your foot off the accelerator but going downhill if you are sliding bad things are likely to happen! The idea of just turning around or pulling into a place to stay can work pretty well when called for. We drove up to the Seahawks game last weekend and expected to return to Bend on monday. We were planning on taking the most conservative way home by driving thru the gorge on I-84. But it was closed due to snow. On the way down I-5 we noticed that WA-14 was open so we tried that but it was closed at Washogal. So we stopped visited a Pendleton factory store and I bought a new shirt. Kathy said to find an interesting old hotel to spend the night. So the Camas Hotel seemed to fill the bill at over 100 years old and I reserved the Honeymoon Suite. I think the gal at the desk chuckled a bit as she gave the keys to a pair of 70+ year olds. We had a wonderful time! Also had a great dinner downstairs and great breakfast down the corner before heading home the next day. After driving over 1500 miles of snowy and rainy roads over the holidays it is great being safely home again. First time I ever heard Kathy say she was ready to stay home for a while.
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I've done the downhill slide of shame through a red light intersection in a K5 blazer in Tahoe before. Terrifyingly interesting experience especially with your passengers screaming around you. I've also did something similar on county road A1 towing a boat in the middle of winter on the way to Eagle lake. That was even more fun, but I was purposefully going very slow. I find that the best approach is to put your right wheels on the shoulder as there is better traction there. Had to do that for about 50 miles one winter in Wyoming and then again on 395 during a late September hail storm near Mammoth Lakes.
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Oldranger's got it figured out. Frustrated sitting in parked traffic vs. snuggling with a pretty gal in a warm spot watching the snow. Big win. Good point on finding the soft snow on the shoulder in the middle of the slide of shame. Had one week before last when the packed snow go a little sun on it and turned into an ice rink. 10-12 cars hit it and slid over to the side and got stuck. Only way around was to put two tires in the soft stuff and creep by. One thought that goes through my mind when I'm sliding and can't stop it is to figure out which ditch to aim for. Stuck in a ditch sucks, but it's a better alternative to sliding into someone else. Not always and option, but something to keep in mind. Stay safe.
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