Hello everyone, I need some help with some remote locations.
- Mike M.
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Re: Hello everyone, I need some help with some remote locations.
Maverick -- yeah, I see that now.
Here are two more views of Cataract Pass, looking up from Amphitheater Lake. These were taken in late August 2004.
Mike
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Here are two more views of Cataract Pass, looking up from Amphitheater Lake. These were taken in late August 2004.
Mike
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Re: Hello everyone, I need some help with some remote locations.
Tender Paw,
I'm guessing you'll be fine. Your doing your homework and sound no different than I many moons ago. I wasnt and am not a climber, but I love cross country backpacking and haved fared pretty well by just being cautious. IMO, the biggest thing as others have said is to be flexible and have alternatives. If it doesnt look safe, turn around.
I speak from experience on the Amphitheater route you are talking of. I did that hike back in 1980 (give or take a year ) with my brother and friend Tom (CI_Seawolf), but we did not cross Cataract and we had planned to. The pics by Mike & Maverick bring back memories as I have gazed upon both views, but the view from below looked mighty different than in Mikes pics. As JTCarter pointed out, there can be a snow cornice and when we did it, it was freaking massive (no less than 25 feet and likely more). When we got there we basically figured it was impassible. My brother and I dropped our packs and hiked up to it, and found we could access the pass as there was space between the ice and the rock wall that we could get through to access the summit. I as surprised when off in the distance we could see the orange of someones tent between the two western most lakes. As for crossing the pass, we knew it would be quite the trek and would be hard on all of us. We considered it, but Tom basically said "your outta your mind if you think I'm going up that." He was right, it would have been a difficult push with packs for all of us, so we stayed that night and enjoyed the solitude of Amphitheater Lake. The next day we backtracked back to the JMT and hiked to Upper Palisade Lake, the next day to Marion, the next to Twin, and then out over Sawmill (we are primarily fisherman so all of our destinations involved ending by a lake or stram) It was an awesome trip and one I will always remember. The changing the course didnt dampen the mood or the trip one bit.
I'm guessing you'll be fine. Your doing your homework and sound no different than I many moons ago. I wasnt and am not a climber, but I love cross country backpacking and haved fared pretty well by just being cautious. IMO, the biggest thing as others have said is to be flexible and have alternatives. If it doesnt look safe, turn around.
I speak from experience on the Amphitheater route you are talking of. I did that hike back in 1980 (give or take a year ) with my brother and friend Tom (CI_Seawolf), but we did not cross Cataract and we had planned to. The pics by Mike & Maverick bring back memories as I have gazed upon both views, but the view from below looked mighty different than in Mikes pics. As JTCarter pointed out, there can be a snow cornice and when we did it, it was freaking massive (no less than 25 feet and likely more). When we got there we basically figured it was impassible. My brother and I dropped our packs and hiked up to it, and found we could access the pass as there was space between the ice and the rock wall that we could get through to access the summit. I as surprised when off in the distance we could see the orange of someones tent between the two western most lakes. As for crossing the pass, we knew it would be quite the trek and would be hard on all of us. We considered it, but Tom basically said "your outta your mind if you think I'm going up that." He was right, it would have been a difficult push with packs for all of us, so we stayed that night and enjoyed the solitude of Amphitheater Lake. The next day we backtracked back to the JMT and hiked to Upper Palisade Lake, the next day to Marion, the next to Twin, and then out over Sawmill (we are primarily fisherman so all of our destinations involved ending by a lake or stram) It was an awesome trip and one I will always remember. The changing the course didnt dampen the mood or the trip one bit.
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Time frame
Kearsarge pass -sixty lakes basin, gardener basin, down to woods creek.
Take woods creek to Arrow Basin follow it north to Cartridge Pass.
Lake Basin – Dumbbell Pass and lakes – Amphitheatre Lakes – Cataract Creek
head east to Palisade lakes and take Ropers route to Palisade and Dusy Basin, re-supply in Bishop.
If you where attempting this route how many days would you plan for?
Personally I'm thinking 8 days, but will take 10 days worth of food. If the going is slower than planned I can always jump on the JMT to make up some time.
Take woods creek to Arrow Basin follow it north to Cartridge Pass.
Lake Basin – Dumbbell Pass and lakes – Amphitheatre Lakes – Cataract Creek
head east to Palisade lakes and take Ropers route to Palisade and Dusy Basin, re-supply in Bishop.
If you where attempting this route how many days would you plan for?
Personally I'm thinking 8 days, but will take 10 days worth of food. If the going is slower than planned I can always jump on the JMT to make up some time.
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Re: Hello everyone, I need some help with some remote locations.
10 days minimum.
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Re: Hello everyone, I need some help with some remote locations.
East Side Hiker'
so how many days max?
so how many days max?
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Re: Hello everyone, I need some help with some remote locations.
10-12 days, but could be done faster, but I would split it into 2 or even
3 trips so you get to spend some time exploring each area.
Most of the areas you want to visit offer more than what you can see in one
or even 3 days!
Do the 60 Lakes-Gardiner-Arrow Lakes-Bench Lake-Twin Lakes in one trip.
The Taboose-Cartridge-Lakes Basin-Dumbbell-Amph Basin in another.
Then you can do the North Lake to South Lake via Lamarck Col another trip.
3 trips so you get to spend some time exploring each area.
Most of the areas you want to visit offer more than what you can see in one
or even 3 days!
Do the 60 Lakes-Gardiner-Arrow Lakes-Bench Lake-Twin Lakes in one trip.
The Taboose-Cartridge-Lakes Basin-Dumbbell-Amph Basin in another.
Then you can do the North Lake to South Lake via Lamarck Col another trip.
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Re: Hello everyone, I need some help with some remote locations.
Maverick is right. Split it up. You could easily spend a week on the 60 Lakes Basin trip. So much to see in all the places you'll pass. They're all different trips, and motoring through will make you miss a lot.
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Re: Hello everyone, I need some help with some remote locations.
LC Nice shot of CK!!!!
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Re: Hello everyone, I need some help with some remote locations.
John, I love your book!
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