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Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby hikin_jim » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:21 pm

I have conducted my own survey of stove fuel prices. I thought people might find the results interesting.

I don't list a lot of stores for alcohol and kerosene for the simple reason that every Tom, Dick, and Harry hardware, paint, and building supply store carries them. To try to list every possible source would require an army of data gatherers that I simply don't have. I have listed some popular low cost sources such as that renowned outdoor supplier, Home Depot. :wink:

Fuel Price Survey Results (as of Dec 2011)

Please let me know if this is useful.

Thanks,

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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby rlown » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:54 pm

i remember when white gas was cheap. guess it's time to try the unleaded gas in my Coleman (it's a dual fuel model).. i haven't benchmarked the two for the burn.. Might be a good time to do so.
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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby oldranger » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:20 pm

So russ, How does buying the most expensive gas you can for your stove compare to the costs of just getting to the TH in your truck? I think there are much more efficient ways of reducing costs of backpacking than worrying about the cost of stove fuel. The good news for me is that for all I spend on backpacking it is way cheaper than putting money into cars and motorcycles and boats like some of my friends do. When Kathy talks to their wives it always puts me in a pretty good light. And remember the first rule of marriage is a happy wife means a happy family!

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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby rlown » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:26 pm

I get 20 mpg in the ol' diesel dodge, and seats 6 comfortably, but it's usually just 4 of us.. and it's paid for, has a turbo for the passes, and 15 years old. If my stove burns unleaded, why not give it a go?

If your Prius get's high-centered on an access road, I promise to gently attach my tow sling to your mirror and tow you out. :p
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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby oldranger » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:53 pm

Russ the prius doesn't go off the pavement. Use the 4 Runner for that. My point is the cost of fuel is a miniscule part of the cost of backpacking. I'm sure I could get by with a lesser vehicle than the 4 runner and cheaper equipment than Western Mountaineering but why?

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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby rlown » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:32 pm

If unleaded burns at the same efficiency in my stove as does white gas, that'll save me enough hypothetical dollars to buy you another beer when we leave the trail-head. :drinkers:

Vehicles are another matter and that's a different thread..
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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby Wandering Daisy » Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:57 pm

Years ago several of us did a week climbing trip with RJ Secor. He used unleaded gas in his stove. I thought it really smelled bad. He had a floorless tepee tent and as he cooked water for tea during a rainstorm, I had to leave the tent immediately due to the smell. I personally would rather pay the extra and use white gas. I have used propane cannister for the last several years. I guess I am just lazy as the cannisters are so easy, although expensive. I always ask for gas cannisters for Christmas presents!
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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby rlown » Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:06 pm

yeah.. they smell different, but this isn't about smell..

I love the apparent challenge of lighting up the coleman, regardless of her charge.. unleaded just gives me a different challenge. Also, I'm probably not testing it in a tent!

I'm not knocking the ease of spinning on a canister. to each their own.
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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby hikin_jim » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:31 pm

rlown wrote:i remember when white gas was cheap. guess it's time to try the unleaded gas in my Coleman (it's a dual fuel model).. i haven't benchmarked the two for the burn.. Might be a good time to do so.

Russ,

Be careful. Just be cause a stove says it can burn unleaded, it doesn't mean that it's a good idea. The use of unleaded gasoline typically shortens the useful life of a stove.

Coleman fuel is still pretty cheap at Walmart and such considering how much someone would typically burn.

Burning unleaded is penny wise and pound foolish. Yeah, you save a few bucks on fuel but you trash your stove.

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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby hikin_jim » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:35 pm

Wandering Daisy wrote:Years ago several of us did a week climbing trip with RJ Secor.
Daisy, have you stayed in touch with RJ? How's he doing now? I know he had a bad accident about 5 years ago.

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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby Wandering Daisy » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:01 am

I am aware of RJ's accident. Friends who have seen him since say he has recovered but not completely. It is very sad to have something like that happen at the peak of your climbing career. Russ- smell does matter to me. I am very sensitive to smells and get quite sick from them. I am the kind of person who gets sick if I wear perfume. If unleaded gas cost $1 a gallon I still could not consider it.
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Re: Fuel Price Survey Results

Postby rlown » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:29 am

hikin_jim wrote:
rlown wrote:i remember when white gas was cheap. guess it's time to try the unleaded gas in my Coleman (it's a dual fuel model).. i haven't benchmarked the two for the burn.. Might be a good time to do so.

Russ,

Be careful. Just be cause a stove says it can burn unleaded, it doesn't mean that it's a good idea. The use of unleaded gasoline typically shortens the useful life of a stove.

Coleman fuel is still pretty cheap at Walmart and such considering how much someone would typically burn.

Burning unleaded is penny wise and pound foolish. Yeah, you save a few bucks on fuel but you trash your stove.

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how does unleaded trash the stove? seals? generator erosion? burner? I'm not seeing the difference between unleaded and white gas yet..
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