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Sub 15oz bear bag?

Postby copeg » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:30 pm

Found this today (http://www.wilderness-solutions.com/)...an electrical bear bag that discharges a shock when the bag is 'armed' and disturbed. So far it is submitted for SIBBG approval, who knows how that will go...only time will tell...although, I'd hate to trip over it in the middle of the night :eek: or even worse



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Postby The Other Tom » Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:06 pm

Interesting approach. Thanks for posting. I wonder how they came up with the "shock value" of the unit...0.1 Joule. I don't have a real good feel about that number, but seems to me that it might be a little low.
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Postby hikerduane » Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:53 pm

Would be good to remember where it is when the call of nature strikes before first light. :eek:
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Postby StumbleBum » Tue May 01, 2007 10:40 am

Worth keeping an eye on.
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zapping bears

Postby gdurkee » Thu May 03, 2007 7:12 pm

A long time ago and far, far away, we set up an electric fence in Little Yosemite Valley for people to put their packs in from bears. (Before boxes, canisters and, even, cables). There were maybe 12 bears frequenting LYV then. They paced relentlessly outside the enclosure for a few nights until, one moonless night, a kamikaze bear charged the wire, grabbed a pack, and ran off into the darkness and bear hero lore.

We took the fence down the next day.

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Re: zapping bears

Postby BSquared » Fri May 04, 2007 6:28 am

Excellent story, George!

On the other other hand, lots of beekeepers in Vermont seem to find that electric fences keep the bears away from their bees pretty effectively, so it might work. Of course I'd never claim a Vermont bear had anything on a Yosemite bear...
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Postby copeg » Fri May 04, 2007 6:49 am

As a side note, here's a link to an electric bear fence: http://www.udap.com/bearshock.htm
Very interesting story George...
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Postby BSquared » Fri May 04, 2007 9:13 am

GREAT movie at that web site!
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Zap

Postby frediver » Fri May 04, 2007 12:23 pm

Like everyone else I don't want to pack more than I need to but maybe in this instance using an electric device over an approved bear can might be the best choice. Unless hikers take a more active roll in deterring bears they will always be a problem. Bears must be made afraid of humans and not see them as an easy snack so how is this task best accomplished?
Protecting your food is one choice but IMO not really the best one.
Better yet will be for the bear to not see hikers as any type of food source.
So a ZAPPER on/over an approved bear can might be a decent choice to accomplish this task and worth the extra weight.
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Postby Lightning Dog » Fri May 04, 2007 3:02 pm

BSquared wrote:GREAT movie at that web site!


Definitely check out the movie at this site. Watching the bear try and dig under the fence is amazing.
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Postby KathyW » Fri May 04, 2007 3:24 pm

It looks like the Ursak got tentative approval again, but not the ones with the spectra fabric. I am a little upset that they aren't giving a discount to those who purchased the Vectran bags that are no longer approved:

http://www.ursack.com/ursack-update.htm
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Postby MountainMinstrel » Thu May 24, 2007 5:29 pm

Question--would this bag still need to be hung? If so I think it might be a deal killer for me. But if not and it gets aproval, I think I may go for it. Depending of course on the price.

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