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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby AlmostThere » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:35 pm

used bladders from their inception, found that I stopped having such trouble with dehydration.... bottles don't work for me.

my bladder started to leak on a four day not long ago. the pack liner kept my gear dry. It only leaked if in the pack under pressure, so I carried it the last day - which was fine for me. it has a handle. Platypus replaced it.

I do what works. bottles have cracked and broken - everything breaks some time. Duct tape or platy patches work fine on a bladder.


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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby longri » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:55 pm

Bottle.

I've made an effort to make drinking out of the bottle super easy, one handed, no stopping as I walk. So no reason to dehydrate. I still get dehydrated though. I just don't want to drink water sometimes. I don't know why. I'm like that at home too. A bladder with a spit encrusted bite valve wouldn't change that for me.

But if I were a runner I'd think about the bladder approach. I actually have a bladder, brand new, never used.
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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby Brien » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:19 pm

I carry both. I like the bladder because I can carry a lot and find the additional weight on my back acceptable. I also carry an empty bottle stuffed with misc. supplies. I use this bottle at camp for my filtered water for cooking. I find it easier to fill the bottle and pour it into my pot than the bladder.


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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby freestone » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:11 pm

A 1.5 liter wide-mouth Gatoraide bottle in the backpack side pocket, 2 liter Platypus collapsible bag stowed empty in my pack for camp use, and a Sea to Summit collapsible shot "glass" in my pocket for dipping into streams and lakes as I hike and fish. I do not use a hydration tube while hiking because I love taking breaks to gulp vast amounts of water to quench my thirst while hiking. Heavenly.
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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby ofuros » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:51 pm

A leg in each camp for me....when scrambling along dry ridges & peaks, i take regular
mouthfuls from a 3litre bladder + have a reserve collapsible 500ml bottle containing water for an
evening meal.

Boulder hopping streams chasing trout, swimming through gorges exploring etc etc where water is
plentiful & accessible I usually just plunge my cupped hands into the flowing water during the day & slurp
& use my cook pot to scoop enough for a meal at the end of the day.

Never had a bladder fail yet & i use a camelbak everyday @ work, you can hear/feel from the outside if your supply is getting low.
Bladders come in the old vertical style & the newer horizontal varieties...now with fold over/slider seal & wide mouth filler,
instead of a screw cap, making them easier to fill, clean & dry (just turn them inside out).

Its a personal thing, experiment...if you don't like it, don't use it. :wink:
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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby Wandering Daisy » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:23 pm

Bottles only. I use one 1-qt vinegar bottle because it is really tough- can fall out of the pack and still be fine. Then I have a 2L platypus for camp use. I have never tried a bladder, because I rarely drink more than 1 qt of water a day on the trail.
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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby longri » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:48 pm

Wandering Daisy wrote:Bottles only. I use one 1-qt vinegar bottle because it is really tough- can fall out of the pack and still be fine. Then I have a 2L platypus for camp use. I have never tried a bladder, because I rarely drink more than 1 qt of water a day on the trail.

I'm the same as you except that my bottle is the skimpiest, thinnest least number of grams plastic water bottle I can find. I've never had a bottle leak when backpacking. It's happened to me only a few times when rock climbing with bottles that have been used/crushed/uncrushed/used/etc multiple times.

This past summer I had a bottle fall out of my pack. I didn't realize it when it happened as I was making a gymnastic move to bridge between rocks in a river and my foot hit the water -- at the same moment that my bottle did. I wondered briefly about the unusually large splash my foot made and then continued.

By the time I realized what had happened the bottle was long gone, on its way to the Pacific.
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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby Wandering Daisy » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:49 am

Just a side-note. Lately I have found plenty of those lightest weight bottled water bottles left in the wilderness. If they break or leak be sure to pack them out. Seems like ditching them in a boulder field has become common.

At least your bear can did not go floating to the Pacific!
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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby longri » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:21 pm

Wandering Daisy wrote:Just a side-note. Lately I have found plenty of those lightest weight bottled water bottles left in the wilderness. If they break or leak be sure to pack them out. Seems like ditching them in a boulder field has become common.

At least your bear can did not go floating to the Pacific!

After being so careful not to get wet crossing the river, when I discovered my water bottle missing I went back and waded downstream quite a ways, hoping that somehow my bottle had gotten hung up somewhere. But there was just no way. Gone. Sorry about the unintentional litter. And I wish I could do something about the prevalence of mindset that litters intentionally.

You know, I'd never thought about it before, but my Bearikade would float, wouldn't it? Even though it feels like a big heavy rock when crammed full of food at the beginning of a trip it would be buoyant, at least at first.
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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby KathyW » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:28 pm

I started with bladders, but switched to bottles in cold weather when the bladder hose would freeze. After a while I switched entirely to bottles because I have a better idea how much water I have with bottles, they don't have hoses that get moldy, and they don't have hoses that freeze. Also, I like having bottles when backpacking because they are easier to fill with water from lakes, springs, and streams than bladders are.
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Re: Bottles vs Bladders

Postby JWreno » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:34 pm

I am not comfortable with the lack of cleanliness with the bladders. To much tubing and the chance for a funky taste. It is easier to clean a bottle. If we are packing a stove we give the bottle the occasional boiling hot water treatment. Fill bottle with very hot water, cap, shake and pour out. We use the rechargeable Steripens and they are easy to use with wide mouth bottles.

We do keep a couple 4 liter MSR Dromedary bags for the sections where more water is needed or for overnight camping so we have enough water to get through the night and start the next day. We carry 2 MSR bags for our group of 3 plus a little bottle for each of us.
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