What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

[caddis]

deleted because I didn't read the previous post before this reply

[tim]

This article (http://us.cnn.com/2013/10/11/politics/s ... =us&page=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) about the reopening of national parks in Utah and a few other places indicates that "California and Wyoming also have sought alternative financing solutions for their parks"

Does anyone have any more insight?

[rlown]

http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/index.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[maverick]

Tim,

Has been already posted here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10123" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[dave54]

I noticed today the Snowmobile Park at Morgan Summit (Hwy 36) is closed, barricaded and the restroom locked. Which I found interesting. It is operated by the Forest Service, but funding is 100% state Green Sticker money. Zero federal funding. All maintenance and operations is state funded with the money allocated and available.

So why closed?

[takotruckin]

I noticed today the Snowmobile Park at Morgan Summit (Hwy 36) is closed, barricaded and the restroom locked. Which I found interesting. It is operated by the Forest Service, but funding is 100% state Green Sticker money. Zero federal funding. All maintenance and operations is state funded with the money allocated and available.

So why closed?

Closed because we Americans are being used as pawns in a giant stupid chess game.

We have been fortunate around here and as far as I know all of our trailheads are still open, as are the 4x4 trails.

[dave54]

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Closed because we Americans are being used as pawns in a giant stupid chess game.

We have been fortunate around here and as far as I know all of our trailheads are still open, as are the 4x4 trails.

I disagree we are pawns in a chess game.

Chess requires at least a modicum of intelligence and rational thought.
Politicians are more like spoiled children that throw a tantrum if they lose at Candyland.

[ironmike]

The game is far from chess. More like chicken.

[caddis]

I noticed today the Snowmobile Park at Morgan Summit (Hwy 36) is closed, barricaded and the restroom locked. Which I found interesting. It is operated by the Forest Service, but funding is 100% state Green Sticker money. Zero federal funding. All maintenance and operations is state funded with the money allocated and available.

So why closed?

Someone answered this earlier:

I'm guessing that all government contractors, including those that run campgrounds on public property, are subject to legal and financial oversight of some sort. We don't just hand over the keys to private contractors and walk away. There's a long history of fraud when that happens, which is why we have government workers removed from the profit motive. It might seem minor for campgrounds compared to a defense contractor or highway construction company, but it takes people at many levels of government to make the private-public system work correctly. We don't see those people working in the background to make things happen, but they're there. Except now, they aren't there."



We need multiple layers of government experts looking over our shoulder so that we don't commit fraud cleaning toilets, walking down trails, looking at old geysers, walking through public malls, and pulling off the side of the road to view faces carved in rocks

[schmalz]

Congress has a 5 percent approval rating. I'm pretty sure we all agree here, so what is the argument again?