What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

[artrock23]

From Alpinist Magazine, "Climbers Respond to Government Shutdown"...

http://alpinist.com/doc/web13f/newswire ... rs-respond" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Guerilla-style" climbing. Love it!

[thegib]

I'm concerned about ticketing. Has anyone encountered a general warning - say, "Any vehicle parked over-night past this sign may be ticketed"?

[RooPhillip]

These were taken in Sequoia NP a couple days ago. Sorry, I can't be more specific about the location for several reasons.

[rlown]

that second pic.. classic.. probably written on his own paper and with his own pen.

At least he or she has obama care going for them, and the IRS is still open.. sigh.

where were these taken, Roo?

[caddis]

Sorry Caddis, but that is massively inappropriate to blame people whose jobs are at risk for breaking the law, who are doing exactly what the leaders of this country, WHO YOU VOTED FOR, have required of them. The poor sap at ground level is not in a position (nor should they) to ignore the policy set by Congress. You don't like this, blame the people at fault, who made the decision to take us down this road.

This doesn't make any sense to me, can you clarify?

*who's job is at risk and why?

*What law breaking are you talking about?

*I didn't elect ANY leader to wage a petty campaign against American's in order to make them as miserable as possible in order to "win a game."

*That "poor sap" at ground level works for you and me and if he can't give a valid and legal reason why he is denying someone access to public property then he probably should be questioning the person who issued his marching orders

*I do blame those in Washington but that doesn't excuse the individuals from all those federal agencies that are screwing the people.

[rlown]

I agree with caddis. Just because the govt shuts down on their own accord, doesn't mean we don't get to access public lands (sans bathroom, but we know how that works anyway)

I'm pretty sure obama care doesn't affect most of us anyway other than raise rates. um.. Obama?

[KathyW]

caddis and rlown - I'm with you guys. I'm very upset at how the Department of Interior and the USDA has handled the shutdown. There's no reason to limit access to many of the areas they have closed just because the nonessential employees are furloughed. It seems like they just want to make a statement. What they have done doesn't reflect well on the administration of these public agencies.

[artrock23]

Sorry Caddis, but that is massively inappropriate to blame people whose jobs are at risk for breaking the law, who are doing exactly what the leaders of this country, WHO YOU VOTED FOR, have required of them. The poor sap at ground level is not in a position (nor should they) to ignore the policy set by Congress. You don't like this, blame the people at fault, who made the decision to take us down this road.

This doesn't make any sense to me, can you clarify?

*who's job is at risk and why?

*What law breaking are you talking about?

*I didn't elect ANY leader to wage a petty campaign against American's in order to make them as miserable as possible in order to "win a game."

*That "poor sap" at ground level works for you and me and if he can't give a valid and legal reason why he is denying someone access to public property then he probably should be questioning the person who issued his marching orders

*I do blame those in Washington but that doesn't excuse the individuals from all those federal agencies that are screwing the people.

Agreed, Caddis!

And re: "massively inappropriate"? ...

[snusmumriken]

I talked to a guy who had tried to walk down to Devils Postpile but was met by a ranger who told him the monument was closed and he had to leave.

I bet that ranger felt like a real idiot. (or at least he should have)

The Devils Postpile is closed due to the shutdown.
If you don't like it, take it up with your elected officials.
Please don't blame the rangers, they are just doing their jobs.

[rlown]

and now the furloughed will most likely get retroactive pay for not doing their ground level jobs. sigh.