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PCT Class 2025

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Did some casual SAGing the past week with a full on slackpacking support over the weekend for some hikers, my wife included. I'm located in Section A Southern California in San Diego County.

Casually canvassed the horde as they traipsed ignorantly through the first few days of their pilgrimage. Generally speaking, from the sample size I interacted with, it's a pretty average distribution of experience. Everything from well-tuned, researched, and prepared to-and-through complete WTF gong shows. The army-surplus guys are always my favorite; but this time there was a dude in full-on retro mode with 110L external frame pack loaded to include the cutoff shorts and heavy leather boots. He said if they were sufficient enough in the 70s then why not good enough for today? I don't see this guy making it too far. Over-reliance on phone applications continues; even when I was giving real-time updates for water caches that I dropped no less than 60 minutes prior I was getting argued with that there was no water. The app said so. #-o Maps, what are those? Quite a few taking wrong turns and learning the hard way about navigation; and those who step away from the PCT highway far enough to almost get into trouble. Found a guy 3 miles up a 4x4 road tangentially off trail and steered him back the right way.

They're far enough out that it's mostly moot but listening to them discuss the need for ice axe and trax in the Sierras is a bit laughable. I'm happy to see/hear them discussing it as far south as the Lagunas. I was smitten to see no fewer than 8 carrying axes, bear cans, and micro trax from the border. It's going to be in the 80s in San Diego this week, and somewhat higher in the valleys between the sky islands of SoCal. It's brisk in the mountains at night; we were in the 30s on Saturday night.

Prepare yourselves, they're coming.
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The trouble with hiking the PCT, for me, is that I'd never finish. I'd find myself around Silver Pass in October, still doing side quests when the snow starts.
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The app said so
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fwiw, I'm surprised to see PCT thru-hikers starting so early in the season, most notably in the past few years. It used to be the last weekend of April was an ideal start date for a northbound hike, allowing one to take a relatively gentle pace and reach the Sierra by mid/late June. I realize lots of new factors motivate earlier start dates: the PCTA permits create a scarcity situation on start date availability, and the looming threat of wildfire/smoke season motivates hikers to start earlier and finish faster.
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The implementation of the PCT permit system does alleviate the horde from being one critical mass moving northward to something that is a bit more spread out. The thing I have never seen publicly discussed is the strategy of when an individual should aim to start with the permit system. We used to math it out based on snow survey data to suggest when the best target date to start would be. This, to mitigate risk in the Sierras. Now, they're spread out and essentially just bunch up in Kennedy Meadows. The talk right now is to reach KM by June 1 to get through the Sierras. What I did not encounter was any healthy dialogue about the recent snow storms and what that means to them.

By my math "Ray Day" is June 14.

Oh, and I **** hate trail magic folks in this first 200 miles. Let them hike! Let them get away and experience self-reliance. They're arguing about whether a creek has water or not; whether their decision to carry X is the right decision; or are blissfully unaware. I like the prepared folks.
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JayOtheMountains wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 12:38 pm #-o Maps, what are those? Quite a few taking wrong turns and learning the hard way about navigation; and those who step away from the PCT highway far enough to almost get into trouble. Found a guy 3 miles up a 4x4 road tangentially off trail and steered him back the right way.
This heli-rescue happened yesterday North of Palm Springs. SAR is really something else.

At least she made it out of the San Jacinto Wilderness. Crazy how many people go missing there. Perhaps it's about the place where fresh NoBos start feeling a bit cocky? Be safe CO '25.
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Common implies a standard distribution of - in this case - sense.

The number of new, under-prepared, under-researched, or just ignorant hikers seems to be a bit higher to me. Though that seems to be the PCT way. Not saying that it's not possible but in our topic range I usually see new hikers in certain areas or with someone much more experienced. I've encountered some real WTF people deep in the Sierra's but usually they're accompanied by an adult-figure. The exceptions are the two highway routes (PCT & JMT) where it is more common to encounter new hikers.

Granted, there is a difference between a researched and fit new backpacker and the off-the-couch "good idea" backpacker; those with ample disposable income and those who are cobbling together a budget and using whatever gear they have. I appreciate encountering those who have been REI-ed despite best intentions; as well as those who are using hand-me-down equipment.

I ran into a guy yesterday near Pioneer Mall in the Lagunas with full external frame pack that could be a museum piece. He was on day 3. Conversely there was the uber U/L Guy at the same location that was on day 5. Both had "sense", but they were different and I wouldn't call either "common".
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The PCT near me is popular with local hikers, as it goes by some nice lakes and viewpoints, with easy road access to trailheads. Nice day hikes or single nighters. Everyone local knows not to hike the local sections SOBO in July/early August. You will be stepping off the trail to let a thru-hiker pass every quarter mile, and bumming rides from you into town.
However, after August all the thru-hikers are gone and you only have a few section hikers. In October you have the trail to yourself.
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