Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
- restimar
- Topix Newbie
- Posts: 1
- Joined: Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:43 am
- Experience: Level 3 Backpacker
Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
Hey all, first post here and a trip I'd love input on: In mid-August this year, I've got a permit to go over Kearsarge Pass for a 3-night, 4-day backpacking trip.
There's no obvious loops I've seen that will be suitable for the group, so I'm thinking of doing a basecamp situation with a bunch of day hikes from the camp.
Right now, I'm eyeing up Charlotte Lake as a camp for the first two nights, followed by a third night somewhere near the lakes just east of the Kearsarge Pinnacles. Excursions include a cross-country hike over Gardiner Pass (and maybe Gardiner Pass East if we're feeling up to it) to Gardiner Basin, summits of Mount Bago and Mount Rixford, or maybe a wander down Bubbs Creek.
I had previously considered a loop through Gardiner Basin, but having read trip reports of Sixty Lakes Col I don't think the everyone could handle the Class 3 there. The Rae Lakes Loop is off the table due to length. I think max mileage with packs will be 8-10 miles/day at the upper end, though we can cover more ground on day hikes. I've done the JMT before so I'm less interested in retreading a lot of that territory, though I don't mind it if it gets us to something great.
As such, I had a few specific questions:
- Is Charlotte Lake the best spot to set up a basecamp of this kind? It's just off the JMT/PCT, and I don't know how busy it'll be (I'm avoiding Bullfrog Lake for this reason). Would love thoughts on any other possible locations.
- What peaks in the area would folks recommend for day-hikes? Class 2 is fine, Class 3 is borderline.
- Is there any other X-C terrain we should check out while we're there?
- Is there an alternative loop that I'm not considering — on-trail or X-C — that we could complete in our timeframe?
- I'm also expecting the snow to be largely thawed in these areas by mid-August (satellite imagery suggests Charlotte Lake is almost ice-free now), barring some sheltered spots, but if people disagree please let me know.
Thank you!
There's no obvious loops I've seen that will be suitable for the group, so I'm thinking of doing a basecamp situation with a bunch of day hikes from the camp.
Right now, I'm eyeing up Charlotte Lake as a camp for the first two nights, followed by a third night somewhere near the lakes just east of the Kearsarge Pinnacles. Excursions include a cross-country hike over Gardiner Pass (and maybe Gardiner Pass East if we're feeling up to it) to Gardiner Basin, summits of Mount Bago and Mount Rixford, or maybe a wander down Bubbs Creek.
I had previously considered a loop through Gardiner Basin, but having read trip reports of Sixty Lakes Col I don't think the everyone could handle the Class 3 there. The Rae Lakes Loop is off the table due to length. I think max mileage with packs will be 8-10 miles/day at the upper end, though we can cover more ground on day hikes. I've done the JMT before so I'm less interested in retreading a lot of that territory, though I don't mind it if it gets us to something great.
As such, I had a few specific questions:
- Is Charlotte Lake the best spot to set up a basecamp of this kind? It's just off the JMT/PCT, and I don't know how busy it'll be (I'm avoiding Bullfrog Lake for this reason). Would love thoughts on any other possible locations.
- What peaks in the area would folks recommend for day-hikes? Class 2 is fine, Class 3 is borderline.
- Is there any other X-C terrain we should check out while we're there?
- Is there an alternative loop that I'm not considering — on-trail or X-C — that we could complete in our timeframe?
- I'm also expecting the snow to be largely thawed in these areas by mid-August (satellite imagery suggests Charlotte Lake is almost ice-free now), barring some sheltered spots, but if people disagree please let me know.
Thank you!
- c9h13no3
- Topix Fanatic
- Posts: 1447
- Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:19 pm
- Experience: Level 1 Hiker
- Location: San Mateo, CA
Re: Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
I've never camped there myself, but when I passed through it was bustling.
I've heard Peakbagger friends of mine say that Mt Bago is their favorite class 1 peak in the Sierra. You should be able to sniff out solid rock on the way up, and then a monster sand plunge on the way down. Mt Cotter is the other obvious cl2-3 peak in the region, but is described as a pile of unrelenting boulders. But the approach to it through 60 lakes basin is scenic. If you're willing to get into cl3, Gould is an easy side trip from the pass and Dragon Peak has some big exposure. All the other peaks in the area are either stiffer class 3+, or are described as having rubbish rock.
The Rae Lakes are is quite scenic. The rest of the loop is optional: the majority of the $ scenery is between Dollar Lake and Charlotte Lake.
"Adventure is just bad planning." - Roald Amundsen
Also, I have a blog no one reads. Please do not click here.
Also, I have a blog no one reads. Please do not click here.
- Gazelle
- Topix Expert
- Posts: 469
- Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:01 am
- Experience: Level 4 Explorer
- Location: almost holbrook junction nv
Re: Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
I believe you can not camp within a 1/4 mile of bullfrog lake. You could go over glen pass and do painted lady, rixford is nice. Havent done Bago but did do the peak to the east of it which you could add on to Bago. If camp at Kearsage lakes maybe west ridge of University? Gould is only class 3at the very top. I really liked dragon lake.
The woman who follows the crowd will usually go no further than the crowd. The woman who walks alone is likely to find herself in places no one has ever been before. Albert Einstein
- wsp_scott
- Topix Regular
- Posts: 234
- Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:55 am
- Experience: Level 3 Backpacker
Re: Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
Charlotte Lake is crowded, never staying there again. No camping near Bullfrog Lake.
Don't know how many miles your group wants to do, but the whole Kearsarge Basin is fun to wander in and easy dayhike to Charlotte. You could easily set up there for 3 nights. You could also break up the climb over Kearsarge Pass with the first night near Matlock Lake (also fun to wander around).
Don't know how many miles your group wants to do, but the whole Kearsarge Basin is fun to wander in and easy dayhike to Charlotte. You could easily set up there for 3 nights. You could also break up the climb over Kearsarge Pass with the first night near Matlock Lake (also fun to wander around).
My trip reports: backpackandbeer.blogspot.com
- KathyW
- Founding Member
- Posts: 422
- Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:19 pm
- Experience: N/A
Re: Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
Drop packs at Kearsarge Pass on the way over and climb Mount Gould. Camp at Kearsarge Lakes and/or Charlotte Lake and day climb Mount Bago or climb Mount Rixford instead. Gould is really easy but has a tricky summit block (those nervous of the class 3 move can call it good next to the summit block). Bago is easy with great views from the summit. Rixford is Class 1/2.
Edit to correct for memory lapse in Bubbs
Edit to correct for memory lapse in Bubbs
Last edited by KathyW on Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- c9h13no3
- Topix Fanatic
- Posts: 1447
- Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:19 pm
- Experience: Level 1 Hiker
- Location: San Mateo, CA
Re: Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
Coming from Kearsarge Pass, there is no need to cross Bubbs creek to summit Mt Bago.
"Adventure is just bad planning." - Roald Amundsen
Also, I have a blog no one reads. Please do not click here.
Also, I have a blog no one reads. Please do not click here.
- KathyW
- Founding Member
- Posts: 422
- Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:19 pm
- Experience: N/A
Re: Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
I stand corrected. It has been a while. With no need to cross Bubbs Mount Bago is easier than Rixford but Rixford is not hard.
Mount Bago from Charlotte Lake: https://kathywing.smugmug.com/Californi ... arge-Pass/
Mount Rixford: https://kathywing.smugmug.com/Californi ... 87-102508/
Mount Gould: https://kathywing.smugmug.com/Californi ... /i-xxNwPcC
Mount Bago from Charlotte Lake: https://kathywing.smugmug.com/Californi ... arge-Pass/
Mount Rixford: https://kathywing.smugmug.com/Californi ... 87-102508/
Mount Gould: https://kathywing.smugmug.com/Californi ... /i-xxNwPcC
- stevet
- Topix Regular
- Posts: 245
- Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:46 pm
- Experience: Level 4 Explorer
- Location: Gilbert, Arizona
- Contact:
Re: Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
I am not a peak bagger, so my suggestions are hiking options.
Gardiner Basin does make a nice loop. It is all Class 2 but requires some routefinding to avoid "ooching" down slabs. (both the descent to Gardiner Creek, and also the descent in Sixty Lakes Basin require scouting for ramps). Travel through Gardiner Basin is slow, but you should be able to avoid any Class 3.
A loop alternate is to cross Glen Pass and enter Sixty Lakes Basin via Rae Col and exit via Basin Notch, then loop back via the JMT. This is shorter and easier than Gardiner Basin. Nothing particularly challenging about the short off trail sections and Sixty Lakes Basin will give a day of relative solitude vs. the busy Kearsarge Pass Trail and JMT. If you choose this, the least crowded camping at Rae Lakes is on the western side of the middle lake accessed via the Sixty Lakes Basin trail.
Another option to consider is Center Basin. Off the beaten path and nothing remotely scary. The lower basin will likely be wet and boggy until you get to Golden Bear Lake. A dayhike to the ridge separating Center Basin from the main Bubbs Creek with view of the JMT and Forester Pass should satisfy most everyone. Feels airy, and zero exposure. More ambitious is Junction Pass, but this year will likely require crossing a snowfield.
Gardiner Basin does make a nice loop. It is all Class 2 but requires some routefinding to avoid "ooching" down slabs. (both the descent to Gardiner Creek, and also the descent in Sixty Lakes Basin require scouting for ramps). Travel through Gardiner Basin is slow, but you should be able to avoid any Class 3.
A loop alternate is to cross Glen Pass and enter Sixty Lakes Basin via Rae Col and exit via Basin Notch, then loop back via the JMT. This is shorter and easier than Gardiner Basin. Nothing particularly challenging about the short off trail sections and Sixty Lakes Basin will give a day of relative solitude vs. the busy Kearsarge Pass Trail and JMT. If you choose this, the least crowded camping at Rae Lakes is on the western side of the middle lake accessed via the Sixty Lakes Basin trail.
Another option to consider is Center Basin. Off the beaten path and nothing remotely scary. The lower basin will likely be wet and boggy until you get to Golden Bear Lake. A dayhike to the ridge separating Center Basin from the main Bubbs Creek with view of the JMT and Forester Pass should satisfy most everyone. Feels airy, and zero exposure. More ambitious is Junction Pass, but this year will likely require crossing a snowfield.
- papercup
- Topix Acquainted
- Posts: 97
- Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:40 pm
- Experience: Level 4 Explorer
- Location: Los Angeles
Re: Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
Plenty of good options given on this thread already. If I were you, I'd avoid camping at Charlotte Lake. It's very busy and other spots in the area are more beautiful. I would prefer camping at Kearsarge Lakes. They are also busy, but being off the JMT they are not as crowded as Charlotte. And they are stunningly beautiful, with the Pinnacles right behind them. If you explore you can find lots of nice campsites with beautiful views.
I'd second the opinion of those who have suggested Mount Bago. It's a straightforward hike with an immense payoff. Gould is also fun even if you skip the Class 3 summit block. I haven't been up Rixford but it seems reasonable as well. You could easily basecamp at Kearsarge Lakes and pick a series of destinations to explore -- Bago, Gould, and Rixford are all accessible, or you could do day-hikes in the direction of Lake Reflection, Center Basin, Charlotte Dome, etc. Or you could just wander and explore the valley you're already in, which is beautiful.
If you want to move your camp a bit more and have something more like a loop hike, I think stevet has the right idea. His Sixty Lakes Basin loop is simple and accessible. It also offers plenty of options for side destinations -- there are plenty of high points on unnamed ridges in the area that are beautiful to explore; you could climb Mount Cotter or check out Dragon Lake; you can ride the top of the ridge to the base of Fin Dome and scramble around there a bit. He's also right that Center Basin is another reasonable alternative.
I'd second the opinion of those who have suggested Mount Bago. It's a straightforward hike with an immense payoff. Gould is also fun even if you skip the Class 3 summit block. I haven't been up Rixford but it seems reasonable as well. You could easily basecamp at Kearsarge Lakes and pick a series of destinations to explore -- Bago, Gould, and Rixford are all accessible, or you could do day-hikes in the direction of Lake Reflection, Center Basin, Charlotte Dome, etc. Or you could just wander and explore the valley you're already in, which is beautiful.
If you want to move your camp a bit more and have something more like a loop hike, I think stevet has the right idea. His Sixty Lakes Basin loop is simple and accessible. It also offers plenty of options for side destinations -- there are plenty of high points on unnamed ridges in the area that are beautiful to explore; you could climb Mount Cotter or check out Dragon Lake; you can ride the top of the ridge to the base of Fin Dome and scramble around there a bit. He's also right that Center Basin is another reasonable alternative.
- sparky
- Topix Fanatic
- Posts: 1038
- Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:01 am
- Experience: Level 4 Explorer
Re: Kearsarge Pass trip in mid-August: Best peaks and X-C hiking?
a loop is possible via the low point on the ridge between university peak and and unnamed peak N,NW of it ive done it twice in both directions. I did it solo both times, and would imagine the east side would need to be done one at a time
The top of the east side is sketchy steep loose dirt/scree/small boulders and really nasty but is in a fantastic setting
The west side isnt as steep but lots of huge talus, mostly stable but came across a few house-sized loose ones both times i did it
The top of the east side is sketchy steep loose dirt/scree/small boulders and really nasty but is in a fantastic setting
The west side isnt as steep but lots of huge talus, mostly stable but came across a few house-sized loose ones both times i did it
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 8 guests