North Guard Lake?

[Wandering Daisy]

Tinkering with a route that includes East Lake and am trying to figure if I could do a side-trip to North Guard Lake. Has anyone been there? It looks nearly impossible to get to without huge elevation gains and losses. Supposedly fish in the lake.

[oldranger]

I believe giantbrookie has been there and found it to be devoid of fish.

[dougieb]

Great question. I have not been there but it is on my mental list of "intriguing but possibly difficult places to get to." Maybe you can find some climbing reports about north guard peak and see what route they took? I think I found some info that way but I don't remember what I read...

[freestone]

OR is probably correct, according to my SEKI map NG lake is fishless as is the drainage just to the east of Cross Mountain.

[Wandering Daisy]

You can climb North Guard from East Lake or from Sphinx Lakes. Neither would drop down to North Guard Lake. Since Old Ranger said he thought there were no fish there, the reason to drop to North Guard Lake would be pure exploration. If I spent the effort to get there, I would want to spend a night, but would not want to carry much - perhaps a "planned bivy" would be a good strategy.

2.3 miles / 2770 gain to pass from East Lake
1.5 miles / drop 2070 to North Guard Lake

This would make a round trip of about 8 miles, 4850 gain if done as a day hike!

Looks to be more difficult to get to from Sphinx, very steep on the Sphinx lake side. Although a bit shorter and less elevation gain, Sphinx Lake itself is harder to reach. The mountain you almost climb is Francis Farquhar. NW ridge is Class 3.

North Guard Lake may qualify as one of the more difficult lakes to get to in the Sierra.

Map showing two possible routes

[Mike M.]

Judging by my old topo map, it looks like the easiest way to get to the lake would be via Bubbs Creek . . . if you can find a place to cross the creek that far downstream. As for fish, you never know. It's a fairly big lake.

Mike

[Wandering Daisy]

If you look at Google Earth, ascending from Bubbs Creek does not look possible- steep slabs, water running down, overhangs, etc.

[TurboHike]

A few pics of the slabs from Bubbs Creek are here:

https://www.climber.org/reports/2014/1855.html

[Mike M.]

If you look at Google Earth, ascending from Bubbs Creek does not look possible- steep slabs, water running down, overhangs, etc.

Wandering Daisy, I checked Google maps last night and you are absolutely right. It looks way too gnarly for my blood. It just goes to show the limitations of the old 80 minute topo maps (and even the 40 minute maps in this case).

TurboHike's post of the link to Steve Eckert's report is really illuminating. Given your skill set, I'm sure you could do this route with a light pack but it is way beyond my comfort level. Nevertheless, now I've got the itch to see it one day; just have to find a way to get there. It is a very well protected piece of paradise.

Mike

[ironmike]

If you look at Google Earth, ascending from Bubbs Creek does not look possible- steep slabs, water running down, overhangs, etc.

Wandering Daisy, I checked Google maps last night and you are absolutely right. It looks way too gnarly for my blood. It just goes to show the limitations of the old 80 minute topo maps (and even the 40 minute maps in this case).

TurboHike's post of the link to Steve Eckert's report is really illuminating. Given your skill set, I'm sure you could do this route with a light pack but it is way beyond my comfort level. Nevertheless, now I've got the itch to see it one day; just have to find a way to get there. It is a very well protected piece of paradise.

Mike

I’m not familiar with any “40 minute” or “80 minute” map series. Please provide references. USGS has historically issued mapping products at 7.5, 15, 30, and 60 minute (1 degree) scales.