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Mokelumne
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:07 pm
by Mradford
How do you pronounce this word?!
Re: Mokelumne
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:14 pm
by AlmostThere
Mo-kull-o-mee.
Re: Mokelumne
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:19 pm
by Tollermom
Or...muh (like uh with a short U)-kuh (again sounds like uh)- luh (once again like uh)-mee
Re: Mokelumne
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:36 pm
by Mradford
Thanks guys!
Re: Mokelumne
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:34 pm
by rlown
i'm not sure why you think the N is silent. From wikipedia (if you trust it):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokelumne_River" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
( /məˈkʌləmni/) the text walks you through how to pronounce it.
Re: Mokelumne
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:01 pm
by Tollermom
Locals leave the N silent. Same with Toulomne Meadows in Yosemite. Not sure I always trust Wiki.
http://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/mokelumne" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://sierrawild.gov/wilderness/mokelumne" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Mokelumne
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:07 pm
by rlown
that's a logical conclusion but then for Tuolumne it shows this:
http://www.pronouncenames.com/search?name=tuolumne" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm seeing a Knee there towards the bottom.
I'm thinking we're not the ones to answer this question.
personally, i include the N in both when i say either name. I don't trust the govt site either. "locals" has a different definition today.. and might just be a lazy tongue.
Re: Mokelumne
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:35 pm
by mokelumnekid
Hmmm...can't say that I've ever heard anyone call out the "n" in either Mokelumne or Tuolumne. Don't know what a local is, but I did grow up right on the river. If someone is more local than that, they must be treading water.
Re: Mokelumne
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:15 pm
by rlown
You're pretty much a local MK. But, that is the "dialect" you learned at that time. Who do we ask? must be an indian history buff out there somewhere who might have preserved the language.
Re: Mokelumne
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:34 pm
by Fly Guy Dave
According to Gudde's 1,000 California Place Names its pronounced mo-kel-um-ee, which is the name of the Muguelemnes Indians. The ending -umni means "people" or "the people of the Mokel," which was a Miwok village near Lockeford.