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Please help communicating with Milkman about their new packaging, which sucks.
Use my text or modify. and contact them using their contact form: https://milkmanmilk.com/pages/wholesale

MY ISSUE & TEXT:
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I have used Milkman since 1973 less the few years you were missing from shelves. I was delighted to find you back, as good as before EXCEPT for a terrible change in packaging.

For decades, you sold Milkman in what I assume was a foil package.

ALWAYS WORKED PERFECTLY: I almost never used a full package at one time and simply folded the top of the partially used foil package a couple of times, perfectly satisfied that the package would not pop open and make an awful mess.

NOW WORKS TERRIBLY: Now you supply Milkman in a Mylar or other plastic packaging. Obviously, whoever designed the new packaging DOES NOT USE your product! Or else they are disrespectful of their customers. The ONLY reason I can think of for using a plastic package is to insure freshness? If that is the thought, then your design department never studied the problem, just made assumptions. I used hundreds of Milkman foil packages (almost always partially used) and never, ever had any taste change or any even remotely ill effects. Over almost 5 decades of use.

The Mylar/plastic package is impossible to fold shut when partially used.
The Mylar/plastic package is impossible to fold shut when partially used.
The Mylar/plastic package is impossible to fold shut when partially used.
The Mylar/plastic package is impossible to fold shut when partially used.
The Mylar/plastic package is impossible to fold shut when partially used.
The Mylar/plastic package is impossible to fold shut when partially used.
The Mylar/plastic package is impossible to fold shut when partially used.

It is impossible. You have to tape it shut or use a rubber band or risk spillage and a mess.

So, in short, I will still buy Milkman. Tastewise, you have no peer.

But every time I open a new package I will CURSE your packaging department, I hate that packaging so much. Yes, you will get my business. But is it not worth something to avoid your customers cursing a bad design with EVERY SINGLE USE??

PLEASE return to what worked for decades in a most perfect fashion."
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Nestles Nido is widely used in the 3rd world, and IMO comes closest to having the taste and texture of the real thing. Nido comes in several varieties: fortified, probiotic, lactose free, and my fav, the regular whole milk. The down side is the packaging is 28oz volume containers with lids. Keeps fresh in the near term, but if you don't camp a lot you are likely to have "old" product a year later.

Ed

NIDO also comes in a smaller container (about a third of the big one?) but the unit cost is higher and choice of type is limited. You can get NIDO from Walmart internet purchase (you just pick it up at your local store or it can be shipped to your home). I use the "toddler" formula.

No reason to cry over spilled Milk(man). Sounds like someone needs a hug.

John

Yes, a hug. And moderators, move this post to its proper sub-forum where more backpack "foodies" can chime in.

Wandering Daisy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:34 am Yes, a hug. And moderators, move this post to its proper sub-forum where more backpack "foodies" can chime in.

Good idea. I am not too good at placing posts.

Gogd wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:21 pm Nestles Nido is widely used in the 3rd world, and IMO comes closest to having the taste and texture of the real thing. Nido comes in several varieties: fortified, probiotic, lactose free, and my fav, the regular whole milk. The down side is the packaging is 28oz volume containers with lids. Keeps fresh in the near term, but if you don't camp a lot you are likely to have "old" product a year later.

Ed

Good. I'm ordering (the post-infant formula) and see how it compares. If as good or better, taste and cost-wise, I will gladly never buy Milkman again. I DO have Zip-lock baggies for such things.

Gogd wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:21 pm Nestles Nido is widely used in the 3rd world, and IMO comes closest to having the taste and texture of the real thing. Nido comes in several varieties: fortified, probiotic, lactose free, and my fav, the regular whole milk. The down side is the packaging is 28oz volume containers with lids. Keeps fresh in the near term, but if you don't camp a lot you are likely to have "old" product a year later.

Ed

Nido is good but Peak is closer. Just seems creamier to me. But it has the exact same issue with aging 12 months on. That and Peak's price, and that I gotta buy it from Amazon, inclines me back towards Nido.

Blastomatic wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:24 am

Gogd wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:21 pm Nestles Nido is widely used in the 3rd world, and IMO comes closest to having the taste and texture of the real thing. Nido comes in several varieties: fortified, probiotic, lactose free, and my fav, the regular whole milk. The down side is the packaging is 28oz volume containers with lids. Keeps fresh in the near term, but if you don't camp a lot you are likely to have "old" product a year later.

Ed

Nido is good but Peak is closer. Just seems creamier to me. But it has the exact same issue with aging 12 months on. That and Peak's price, and that I gotta buy it from Amazon, inclines me back towards Nido.

Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try. BTW the Peak web site indicates it also comes in 12 gram foil packets, perhaps affording better shelf life -- if you are comfortable ordering from their Nigerian web portal.

Ed

Blastomatic wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:24 am

Gogd wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:21 pm Nestles Nido is widely used in the 3rd world, and IMO comes closest to having the taste and texture of the real thing. Nido comes in several varieties: fortified, probiotic, lactose free, and my fav, the regular whole milk. The down side is the packaging is 28oz volume containers with lids. Keeps fresh in the near term, but if you don't camp a lot you are likely to have "old" product a year later.

Ed

Nido is good but Peak is closer. Just seems creamier to me. But it has the exact same issue with aging 12 months on. That and Peak's price, and that I gotta buy it from Amazon, inclines me back towards Nido.

Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try. BTW the Peak web site indicates it also comes in 12 gram foil packets, perhaps affording better shelf life -- if you are comfortable ordering from their Nigerian web portal.

Ed