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Pear Lakes
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:09 am
by jimmeans
Can anybody explain the difference between the Pear/Emerald Lake trail and the Pear/Emerald Pass Through trail in SEKI?
Are there requirements for first night camping locations?
Thanks,
JM
Re: Pear Lakes
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:42 am
by Wandering Daisy
There is an alternative section of trail to Pear Lake, but I do not know its name. The main trail goes higher, pretty much a straight shot, to Emerald Lake; the other is a bit longer and skirts north around the buttress, and can be dangerous early season with ice and snow. But I suspect both are fine now. I prefer the one that skirts around the buttress because the views are great. The straight-shot one is pretty boring. You have to get to Emerald Lake or farther to camp.
Re: Pear Lakes
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:55 am
by jimmeans
The SEKI permit application lists these as separate entry trails. Seems kind of strange that what you described would require separate entry trail names, especially if you still have to get to Emerald Lake after these trails rejoin to camp.
Re: Pear Lakes
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:22 pm
by c9h13no3
Wandering Daisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:42 am
There is an alternative section of trail to Pear Lake, but I do not know its name. The main trail goes higher, pretty much a straight shot, to Emerald Lake; the other is a bit longer and skirts north around the buttress, and can be dangerous early season with ice and snow. But I suspect both are fine now. I prefer the one that skirts around the buttress because the views are great. The straight-shot one is pretty boring. You have to get to Emerald Lake or farther to camp.
Pretty much this. The higher trail is known as "the hump", the lower more exciting verison is known as the Watchtower trail. People slip off the watchtower trail in the early season when it's icy, and fall to their deaths every once in a while. Shouldn't be a concern now.
Re: Pear Lakes
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:33 pm
by c9h13no3
jimmeans wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:55 am
The SEKI permit application lists these as separate entry trails. Seems kind of strange that what you described would require separate entry trail names, especially if you still have to get to Emerald Lake after these trails rejoin to camp.
Ah, you're probably confusing that with the Pear/Emerald pass thru. This means you don't plan to camp at Pear Lake, but plan to continue on to the Tablelands or whatever. Which path you take to Pear lake is irrelevant. They're just trying to count where people are camping correctly.
Re: Pear Lakes
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:46 pm
by jimmeans
That was my original question. What is the difference between Pear/Emerald Lake trail and Pear/Emerald Pass Through trail? Thanks.
Re: Pear Lakes
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:54 pm
by c9h13no3
jimmeans wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:46 pm
That was my original question. What is the difference between Pear/Emerald Lake trail and Pear/Emerald Pass Through trail? Thanks.
Yeah, I suck at reading and just read Daisy's original post
Re: Pear Lakes
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:23 pm
by Wandering Daisy
The wording confused me because the permit words sounded like two trails. Yes, you either get to camp at Emerald or Pear Lake or if you have a "pass through" you have to go beyond. However, the "trail" does not go beyond! There is a use-trail of sorts up to Tablelands, but the "trail" ends at Pear Lake, or at the Ranger Cabin below the lake. I am not sure how you would "pass through" other than up to Tablelands.
Re: Pear Lakes
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:58 am
by MountainMinstrel
Wandering Daisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:23 pm
The wording confused me because the permit words sounded like two trails. Yes, you either get to camp at Emerald or Pear Lake or if you have a "pass through" you have to go beyond. However, the "trail" does not go beyond! There is a use-trail of sorts up to Tablelands, but the "trail" ends at Pear Lake, or at the Ranger Cabin below the lake.
I am not sure how you would "pass through" other than up to Tablelands.
You could go to Alta Peak.
Re: Pear Lakes
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:31 am
by chulavista
Pass thru permit means you aren't camping at the first allowed camping spots, designated sites at emerald and pear lakes. You would head up the river or the use trail to tablelands. There is a different permit for Alta which also has a lot of camping restrictions.