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Re: When people break the rules

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:17 am
by Love the Sierra
I am so glad that you posted this. It kills me to see people damaging or endangering our already endangered wilderness.

Re: When people break the rules

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:34 pm
by SSSdave

erutan >>>"Yeah, I've definitely broken one of the three rules when setting up camp. The Grand Canyon of the Tuolumne has very few sites 100 feet from trail..."

There are numerous old packer sites closer than 100 feet along major all year streams with adjacent trail. The national park service knows they are there and obviously expects groups to continue to use them. So what is going on? Well those that promote the logic that the whole public ought be treated like Homer Simpsons so all policies ought be simple understandable even by the stupid will not want to admit there ought to be any obvious exceptions lest the easily confused suffer. No one early to mid summer will contaminate streams like where the JMT/PCT crosses Pine Creek along the SF San Joaquin River. Flows are too large in either streams so anything would be hugely diluted in seconds. In cases like Kip Camp on Bear Creek, the NFS has long ago fixed an exception in that zone. Big streams are simply not in the same category as alpine lake edges.

Now given the above noted reality, I dislike siting closer than 100 feet from rivers, however such established camps are so dominant, I prefer to criticize authorities of policy that over my lifetime tend to be rigid. On the other hand that attitude give excuse to others that may use the same logic to publicly ignore practices a consensus of environmentally considerate would condemn.

Re: When people break the rules

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:56 pm
by SSSdave
SSSdave >>>"...where the JMT/PCT crosses PineCreek along the SF San Joaquin River.
correction gogd,
sb. Piute Creek