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Re: TR: Haeckel-Lamarck Comedy of Errors, 9/11-13/2023

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:15 pm
by wildhiker
Thanks for an entertaining read and nice photos. But despite the no-doubt true analyses above that you have to be a real stud mountaineer to have accomplished this route in three days with no map, I have one doubt: really, only ONE copy of the map? No second copy in your pack?
-Phil

Re: TR: Haeckel-Lamarck Comedy of Errors, 9/11-13/2023

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:14 am
by kpeter
wildhiker wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:15 pm Thanks for an entertaining read and nice photos. But despite the no-doubt true analyses above that you have to be a real stud mountaineer to have accomplished this route in three days with no map, I have one doubt: really, only ONE copy of the map? No second copy in your pack?
-Phil
I did wonder about that too. I take paper maps, my gps unit, and my Inreach unit. So paper maps and 2 electronic maps as backup.

Re: TR: Haeckel-Lamarck Comedy of Errors, 9/11-13/2023

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:29 am
by Wandering Daisy
OK, I will admit that I only take one map and do not use a GPS, and on several occasions ended up with no map - simply did not get put in my map packet when I left home. I too have left a map at a rest stop. Route finding is a skill separate from having a map. The only problem is that you cannot see over the ridge to what is on the other side. I probably too would not have turned back just because I lost the map. You can always retreat if you cannot find the route on the other side of a ridge.

It was wise not to try to go down to Schober Lakes. I was once fishing at the upper Schober Lake when a poor fellow came stumbling past me. He ended up spending the night on the descent and said it was really difficult. Granted he may have not had any climbing experience.

Re: TR: Haeckel-Lamarck Comedy of Errors, 9/11-13/2023

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:54 pm
by Sam R
I appreciate the comments, everyone! It's fun to be able to trade stories here.

thegib, in those moments of downclimbing I thought, if it's easy enough to do this without the extra 25 lbs. on my back, why not. The results of my technique, uh, speak for themselves.

Two maps, wildhiker and kpeter? You may be onto something there...

WD: re: Schober: noted!

Re: TR: Haeckel-Lamarck Comedy of Errors, 9/11-13/2023

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:56 pm
by Sam R
PS I notice that some people, in responding to each other here, put "@" before someone else's name. Is there a technical reason for that, or is it just a convention?

Re: TR: Haeckel-Lamarck Comedy of Errors, 9/11-13/2023

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:34 pm
by SSSdave
Enjoyed the story. Few obviously will publicly post that kind of pain. Of course you leaned a lot. I always take at least two sets of most important maps since paper is so light and losing anything handled so often is always possible. The lack of appetite is often not actual altitude sickness but rather too strenuous a day 1 effort at high elevations. Thus in the future, consider a more moderate starting day.

Re: TR: Haeckel-Lamarck Comedy of Errors, 9/11-13/2023

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:14 pm
by Sam R
Seriously.

Also, kpeter, while glad, I was also somewhat chagrined to see my intended ridge from beneath Blue Heaven, because, done properly, it looked so clearly to be a ridgerunner's delight. I ended up traversing above Midnight to meet up with the west end of the ridge (not a way I can recommend).

Re: TR: Haeckel-Lamarck Comedy of Errors, 9/11-13/2023

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:39 am
by grampy
Sam R wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:56 pm PS I notice that some people, in responding to each other here, put "@" before someone else's name. Is there a technical reason for that, or is it just a convention?
When the forum software is working perfectly, adding the “@“ highlights your name and serves as sort of a “link” to your user identity, causing you to receive a notification that someone has “mentioned” you. It works similar to “quoting” someone’s post. However, this software feature has been broken recently, but lots of us still use it out of habit.

Re: TR: Haeckel-Lamarck Comedy of Errors, 9/11-13/2023

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:05 am
by Sam R
Got it, grampy (or @grampy)--thanks for that.

Re: TR: Haeckel-Lamarck Comedy of Errors, 9/11-13/2023

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:18 pm
by Harlen
@Sam R,
Man! This is yet another from the goldmine of "Unread postland." Like others, I really enjoyed you sense of humor throughout the story, and your overall great writing style. What a fine route you managed-- you could have easily maintained that you were not lost, just exploring Blue Heaven basin. Your photos are fantastic! I especially love numbers 4,5 &6 on your way up to Haeckel Pass. Haeckel is one fine-looking peak!
Please keep the trip reports coming Sam! Cheers, Ian.