Thieves Ransack / Loot MTR, Florence Store, Other Buildings
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Re: Thieves Ransack / Loot MTR, Florence Store, Other Buildi
let alone doing it when you're playing a fish.
If you don't know where you're going, then any path will get you there.
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Strongly disagree with your theory. California does not have a monopoly on lowlifes. They are everywhere and the worst are the super conservative radical ones who think the government doesn't have the authority to regulate their behavior.
Mike
Strongly disagree with your theory. California does not have a monopoly on lowlifes. They are everywhere and the worst are the super conservative radical ones who think the government doesn't have the authority to regulate their behavior.
Mike
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Re: Thieves Ransack / Loot MTR, Florence Store, Other Buildi
Back a few months ago, a thread somewhere here asked us, what would be some the effects/results of the Strayed, PCT movie - Wild?
In the book, (never saw the damn movie), a drug addict, POS, city trash ventures out of her inner-city comfort zone and discovers value, hidden away in the wilderness. While we never learn whether her new-found, trail ethics stuck after completing her part of a "section hike"...(actually a pretty crappy book, IMHO), the book did showcase what real hikers already knew about - the many benevolent trail-angels, opening up their Sierra homes (showing/sharing their belongings) with honest dirt bag hikers.
Now, apres Wild, the POS trash also know - what's inside those Sierra dwellings, and what happens to the facilities when the season ends/closes up for the winter.
This is one result.
In the book, (never saw the damn movie), a drug addict, POS, city trash ventures out of her inner-city comfort zone and discovers value, hidden away in the wilderness. While we never learn whether her new-found, trail ethics stuck after completing her part of a "section hike"...(actually a pretty crappy book, IMHO), the book did showcase what real hikers already knew about - the many benevolent trail-angels, opening up their Sierra homes (showing/sharing their belongings) with honest dirt bag hikers.
Now, apres Wild, the POS trash also know - what's inside those Sierra dwellings, and what happens to the facilities when the season ends/closes up for the winter.
This is one result.
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Re: Thieves Ransack / Loot MTR, Florence Store, Other Buildi
There are many types and degrees of lowlifes, and they are everywhere. Unfortunately.
Bringing it back to the topic, not sure what flavor of lowlife this person or these people is/are but I can certainly think of a million and one unique and gratifying wilderness ways of punishment that I'd throw my support behind. It's a bummer that people like this in our society ruin things for everyone else. Now there's a real likelihood that some future stranded winter traveler will need to seek refuge in one of those buildings, but may not have that option as others before him/her have.
Bringing it back to the topic, not sure what flavor of lowlife this person or these people is/are but I can certainly think of a million and one unique and gratifying wilderness ways of punishment that I'd throw my support behind. It's a bummer that people like this in our society ruin things for everyone else. Now there's a real likelihood that some future stranded winter traveler will need to seek refuge in one of those buildings, but may not have that option as others before him/her have.
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Re: Thieves Ransack / Loot MTR, Florence Store, Other Buildi
Eric wrote:
because of someone injured or lost could not gained access and perished because of hypothermia.
Would hope this will not be the consequences of these fools actions, it would be horrible if lives were lostNow there's a real likelihood that some future stranded winter traveler will need to seek refuge in
one of those buildings, but may not have that option as others before him/her have.
because of someone injured or lost could not gained access and perished because of hypothermia.
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I don't give out specific route information, my belief is that it takes away from the whole adventure spirit of a trip, if you need every inch planned out, you'll have to get that from someone else.
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I don't give out specific route information, my belief is that it takes away from the whole adventure spirit of a trip, if you need every inch planned out, you'll have to get that from someone else.
Have a safer backcountry experience by using the HST ReConn Form 2.0, named after Larry Conn, a HST member: http://reconn.org
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Markskor
This is nothing new. I always left a window unlocked at my ranger station when I left at the end of the season. One year a sweater and a day pack was missing when I returned. It was a good thing my beer and fishing rod were untouched or I would have tracked the dirty bastard down!
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This is nothing new. I always left a window unlocked at my ranger station when I left at the end of the season. One year a sweater and a day pack was missing when I returned. It was a good thing my beer and fishing rod were untouched or I would have tracked the dirty bastard down!
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I didn't see this post earlier, but that's downright disturbing.
Its not right anywhere, but it pisses me off even more when it happens at places like the JMT Ranch. I hope the other resorts were left unscathed.


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Re: Thieves Ransack / Loot MTR, Florence Store, Other Buildi
Looking at SSSDave's post, then Old Ranger's- I think we have a bigger problem with personal safety and lawlessness in California than we used to, and I think most would agree with that who have lived here awhile. That is why bad things are happening, even in the backcountry, at places that should be respected and left alone by all.
I think the downward spiral in our state is seen every time the government suggest more regs to take guns and ammo....then what happens, there is a run on guns and ammo. People know by instinct that they have to protect themselves and their families. Yes, it is bad in other states, but there is not much comfort in that, and I do think some places are safer and have less crime than others!
Personally, I don't know any super conservative radical people who think the government should not regulate any of their behavior, but I see a conservative when I look in the mirror. Maybe it is time to just throw anyone who isn't a progressive into a camp and reeducate us morons, or just kill us like some on the left are beginning to suggest, especially if we are Christian. Stinking conservatives! How dare they express an opinion that is different from those who regulate and rule us?

I think the downward spiral in our state is seen every time the government suggest more regs to take guns and ammo....then what happens, there is a run on guns and ammo. People know by instinct that they have to protect themselves and their families. Yes, it is bad in other states, but there is not much comfort in that, and I do think some places are safer and have less crime than others!
Personally, I don't know any super conservative radical people who think the government should not regulate any of their behavior, but I see a conservative when I look in the mirror. Maybe it is time to just throw anyone who isn't a progressive into a camp and reeducate us morons, or just kill us like some on the left are beginning to suggest, especially if we are Christian. Stinking conservatives! How dare they express an opinion that is different from those who regulate and rule us?

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Re: Thieves Ransack / Loot MTR, Florence Store, Other Buildi
And yet almost all violent crimes are down over the past twenty years.
Of course, it could just be that the media makes a bigger deal out of these things than it used to.
Nah....
Of course, it could just be that the media makes a bigger deal out of these things than it used to.
Nah....
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Re: Thieves Ransack / Loot MTR, Florence Store, Other Buildi
FWIW, it's extremely rare for anyone (including resort owners) to be up there during winter months whether to protect the properties or for other reasons. Also, missing items include at least one old shotgun, a collectible rifle and ammo. Whether or not the jerks were armed to begin with, they certainly are now. Unless those items are now on Ebay, which is probable.
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