High Sierra Topix

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(I would have replaced Bear Grylls with Les Stroud...)

"Car campers who sleep in their cars" are outside the scoffing hierarchy, so that's awesome.

I would move bear grylls below glampers.
His shows are so phony they are comical.

C9":

Car campers who sleep in their cars" are outside the scoffing hierarchy, so that's awesome.

Oh well.

dave54 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:13 am I would move bear grylls below glampers.
His shows are so phony they are comical.

Amen

Oh geez! The list itself is open for scoff.
Bear Grylls doesn't belong on the list. He is about as relevant to camping as Monte Python is to Medieval history.

High in the Scoff list for the backcountry:

• Unattended campfires.
• Rock taggers
• Large mammal feeders.
• Folks whose bushcraft activities leave behind an axe scared forest.
• Those who foul water source with soap while bathing or washing dishes
• Camping too close to water.
• Cowboy campfires instead of Indian campfires.
• Littering.
• Taking up two spaces in the trailhead parking lot.
• People getting a quota controlled permit, then not use it.
• People who know more about what equipment to buy than how it is used.
• Campers who attempt to introduce newbies to the sport, but ruin it, due to attitude, venue selection, or lack of skills/wisdom one should have if they assume the mentor role.

Drive-in camping:

• Folks who get aggressive with others.
• Aggressive driving in campground areas.
• Large mammal feeders.
• Folks practicing bushcraft on nearby flora.
• Running your engine in park, with no intention of going anywhere.
• Generator noise. (Stay at a KOA if you can't do without such amenities.)
• Folks who use the 20K watt light bars on their PU trucks as camp illumination.
• Smokey campfires.
• Blaring any genre of music at excessive volume.
• Dogs barking incessantly/not cleaning up after pets.
• Excessive noise at inappropriate hours.
• Making a mess of community spaces/facilities
• Littering and leaving a site abused, unclean.
• Folks who reserve a site, then no-show.
• People telling me the "right" way to make chili.
• Folks who have better beer in their ice chests than me!

Yea, guess I am pissy old. Damn it, anyway!

Ed

Gogd wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:30 am [*]People telling me the "right" way to make chili.

If it doesn't have beans, it is hotdog topping. Not chilli.

c9h13no3 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:59 pm

Gogd wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:30 am [*]People telling me the "right" way to make chili.

If it doesn't have beans, it is hotdog topping. Not chilli.

Ah, trying to provoke me eh?
Actually I agree. And I think by your reply we both know the folks most strident in their opinion on the topic. Most chili contests I've visited disqualify for beans. Yet the no-beans POV flies in the face of the origins of chili. The history of chili is as the ranch hand, herd driver and Shepard's meal in the field, where dry good predominated the larder; additionally beans were cheap. One time I took some of my chili to an event, knowing the beans barred me from competing. Folks sampling my wares were surprised I had some good stuff. It was actually a very simple recipe - only 8 ingredients, including the spices; but the beans make it the complete dish. Nuf said, I am bordering on being that guy guilty of chili pontification.

Ed

C9":

Car campers who sleep in their cars" are outside the scoffing hierarchy, so that's awesome.

Sorry, didn't read C9's above comment correctly, However, after fitting out our old van with a bed this summer, you can scoff all you want-- great nights of sleep, and we didn't spend a dime on the road. Plus, we were safe from the real bears up in Canada.

In defense of sleeping in your car, this is 100% the way to go if you're camping somewhere that's, shall we say, a little less than legal.