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Re: Cook Kit Options

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:24 pm
by Rye_Tyler
Mark may have started a run on Ti frypans..
Evernew makes a couple different ti sizes all from 4.2 to 5.5 ounces. 43.00 to 55.00 at campsaver.com
Msr has their aluminum quick skillet 7.75" 5.9 oz 19.95 and Flex skillet 5.6 oz 23.95 on backcountry.com

I really need to be in the mountains instead of looking at gear..

Re: Cook Kit Options

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 5:17 pm
by oldranger
Rye

I couldn't find a titanium skillet on the site that was larger than 8" which won't do for the size of fish I eat, even with heads and tails cut off. I guess that is why I have markskor along with me most of the time.

Mike

Re: Cook Kit Options

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 8:02 am
by markskor
If I had known that the only reason that the OldRanger keeps inviting me along was because of my "uncoated", big 10 inch, pure, Titanium frypan, would probably have disposed of it long ago...Saving me those past years of grief. This year, he has invited the frypan along again, this time his plan is to be spot-packed into the Sawtooths of Idaho for 16 days - one-man raft fishing for big cuts. Sigh...but since he has already bought the maps anyway, decided, might as well just tag along... once again...humor him some. Always respect your elders. :rolleyes:

BTW, also viewed those Evernew Ti fry pans and concur - nice, but just a little too small even with trout heads and tails removed. Maybe some manufacturer will someday figure it out...specifically a large, light, Ti frypan - designed for cooking up foil-wrapped fish...not necessarily intended for direct frying.

Just to add, light, thin-walled Titanium transfers heat well but gets hot spots - not at its best when used for frying per se, thus a wide-flame-pattern stove extremely necessary. Additionally, always suspicious/wary of non stick anything...for clumsy me, usually burns or scratches first meal out.

Re: Cook Kit Options

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 9:06 am
by Jimr
I'm using the same 10" aluminum Teflon coated fry pan I've had for 30 years. I stow it in my mosquito head net to keep it from being scratched by the stove. I gave up on the MSR whisperlite gas stove and went to canister this year. I picked up a pocket rocket knockoff for merely boiling water and this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Outdoors-Campin ... 5731.m3795

for frying pan work. We'll see how it works out next week.

Re: Cook Kit Options

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 9:36 am
by longri
Jimr wrote:I gave up on the MSR whisperlite gas stove and went to canister this year.
What took you so long?
It's fun to see that stove. I bought one (marketed under a different brand and with a different valve knob) 15 years ago in Chile. It's a nice solid stove and I like it, but it has a big metal plate under the burner and it weighs a ton. It does car camping duty for me nowadays.

You can try and impress your friends by learning to flip open or close all four of the pot holder arms with one quick flip. :-)

Re: Cook Kit Options

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:25 pm
by ERIC
What's the weight on that Ebay fry pan burner?

Re: Cook Kit Options

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:51 pm
by Jimr
longri wrote:
Jimr wrote:I gave up on the MSR whisperlite gas stove and went to canister this year.
What took you so long?
You could ask that for all my gear. I replaced everything I had (circa 1980) this year, so I'm having to feel out a whole new kit.

Eric, I don't know the actual weight, but it has to be less than 2 pocket rockets.

Re: Cook Kit Options

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 11:52 am
by FeetFirst
markskor wrote:Remote canister stoves - you have the ability to invert the canister...(much like a paint can where you turn it upside down to clean the nozzle - but here the exact opposite), the stove canister has the most volatile/lightest gas at the top...first gas to escape. At lower ambient temps, rendering low pressure when canister approaches 1/2 empty. By inverting, this forces the heavier gas out first - no drop in pressure.
Most remote canister stoves can operate with an inverted fuel canister, especially helpful for cold temps, but not all. For example, the Olicamp Xcelerator Ultra Titanium cannot be used with an inverted canister because it eschews the necessary preheat tube to save a couple of ounces. If you don't need cold weather performance then it's a great stove that has very good stability and wind shedding capabilities at only 3.5 ounces.

I bought one to use on trips with my son to make it easier and safer for him to join in on cooking duties. Coupled with an 8" frying pan things like quesadillas, pancakes, fried trout, etc. are easy to do on the trail.

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Re: Cook Kit Options

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:31 pm
by Snowtrout
I just bought that exact stove. 2oz lighter than my previous stove, more supportive for my MSR 2l pot, seems to be better against wind and no more worries about burning off the hair on my hand (when adjusting the flame control). Testing it out fully this weekend. And as previously stated, you cannot invert the canister on this stove.

Re: Cook Kit Options

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:17 pm
by gabe&mel
markskor wrote:[/one of the many reasons to choose a remote canister over pocket rocket type stoves. Yes a few oz heavier (BTW, my Windpro a little over 7 oz as compared to 3 oz for a pocket rocket). Also better in stability issues, able to use a windscreen, wider flame pattern, etc.

If just boiling water - meh, if cooking for real though...go remote/inverted
We just picked up an MSR Windpro 2 up and an 9 inch MSR flex skillet and have been testing it out camping in Washington and in British Columbia. I'm quite impressed as you can actually cook with it, we have been enjoying toast and quesadillas all without burning the bottom of our pots. I did do some fishing but nothing large enough to wrap in foil... Well not yet. [emoji2]. For me I've determined it to be a weight worthy justification over the pocket rocket for just a few more ounces it really opens up the culinary opportunities. We are gonna be out on the JMT going out over Bishop Pass sometime the first week of June to put it to good use.


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