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Re: 2024 HST Meetup

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:37 pm
by ChuckSten
Please count me in. I'm entering and exiting via the Bear Creek Diversion Dam TH. Any advice on tricky stream crossings?

Re: 2024 HST Meetup

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:55 pm
by maverick
Hi Chuck,

You are counted in. Looking forward to meeting you. :)
There are too many variables to predict what you can expect at the end of July. Keep an eye on the snowpack; if the central Sierra is average or below, you will be fine. Luckily, I have been through that area a few times and have not experienced more than waist-deep water levels. Try timing your fjords for the mornings instead of afternoons when the water levels are lower.
Read the following thread for some great pointers: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=6043&hilit=safe+ri ... ing#p40741

Re: 2024 HST Meetup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:16 am
by richlong8
After snagging a permit for Bear Diversion Dam for Sunday, 7/21, there are 3 permits left for Sunday, Friday =0, Mon-Thursday, still 6 each. I suspect this will be one of the entries our members will use, and there will begin to be fewer in number. I am glad I did not wait too long, because the east side entries look impossible this year.

Re: 2024 HST Meetup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:32 pm
by Gazelle
some will start saying the meetup is too big! last time they said that I was the only person camped where we were supposed to be! I think the meetup at kaweah basin was the best!

Re: 2024 HST Meetup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:53 pm
by maverick
Some will start saying the meetup is too big!
Plenty of space exists to set up dispersed campsites for groups north, south, east, and west of Vee Lake. Seven Gables and Bear Lakes can also be used as campsites, for example, if the size requires it, and we meet up at the east side of Vee Lake during the day on Friday for our HST gathering. When we get to the 15th of July, I will count how many will be attending, especially since the 14-day permits have already been released, and plan to minimize our impact accordingly. ;)

Re: 2024 HST Meetup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:56 pm
by richlong8
I loved Kaweah Basin. My only regret is not staying there a few more days, but I was not retired yet, and the clock never stopped ticking.
But you know how it goes, more will say they are going then actually show up, and people will wander in on Thursday, Friday, or even the exit day, Saturday. I doubt it will be too big, and Vee is large.

Re: 2024 HST Meetup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:09 pm
by maverick
After snagging a permit for Bear Diversion Dam for Sunday, 7/21, there are 3 permits left for Sunday, Friday =0, Mon-Thursday, still 6 each. I suspect this will be one of the entries our members will use, and there will begin to be fewer in number. I am glad I did not wait too long because the east side entries look impossible this year.
As Rich mentions above, there are still permits left for the Bear Diversion and Bear Ridge; otherwise, if you procrastinate, you will have to gamble on trying to snag the ones released two weeks before your start from the west or east entries. Good luck with that.

Re: 2024 HST Meetup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:11 pm
by richlong8
ChuckSten wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:37 pm Please count me in. I'm entering and exiting via the Bear Creek Diversion Dam TH. Any advice on tricky stream crossings?
Just a quick response: I am coming in from the diversion dam. The major crossing that can be challenging on the JMT is Bear Creek a couple miles or so south from the Hilgard Branch. If the snow keeps up, and the creek is very high, I will not cross Bear Creek because I have my dog to consider also. You have to cross the Hligard ford first before the Bear Creek ford, but I don't anticipate big problems with that ford. However, When I get to the Bear Creek ford, if I don't like the crossing, I will go up the East Fork of Bear Creek, which is just before the Bear Creek ford, and go to Seven Gables Lakes, then to Vee Lake. All the creeks could be larger than normal, but compared to Bear Creek, I do not anticipate any big problems. All that I can say is people need to know their own abilities, and not be afraid to find alternative crossings(usually upstream) even though it takes a lot more effort. I just say it is not worth the risk, and keep looking until I have a safe plan to cross. That is my opinion, for what it is worth.

Re: 2024 HST Meetup

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:06 am
by Wandering Daisy
Since I only tried to attend one meetup (Keweah) and missed the boat when I arrived, can you explain what is planned for the "meetup day" Friday. Everyone in the same place or do people meet in the morning and go off in groups? If I decide to go and can get a permit, I do not want to "miss the boat" again! If I camp somewhere an hour or so away, will I get the meeting place only to find everyone gone for the day?

Re: 2024 HST Meetup

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 1:39 pm
by maverick
Since I only tried to attend one meetup (Keweah) and missed the boat when I arrived, can you explain what is planned for the "meetup day" Friday. Everyone in the same place or do people meet in the morning and go off in groups? If I decide to go and can get a permit, I do not want to "miss the boat" again! If I camp somewhere an hour or so away, will I get the meeting place only to find everyone gone for the day?
I will go into more detail once the final numbers are in since it impacts how and between what times our gathering takes place on Friday; it will be a meet and greet, three to four-hour planned cocktail hour, so you won't miss out. :partyman:
The wild card that cannot be controlled is the weather, but hopefully, she will cooperate. Those arriving on Wednesday or Thursday can visit with groups who have already arrived; not everyone will be doing a drop-in. I am happy you are considering attending this one, Daisy. :)