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Re: JPEGSnoop Sniffs Out Signs of Editing

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:06 pm
by SSSdave
This thread is not the place to hijack into a more general discussion about image manipulation and fidelity. You or anyone else is welcome to email me directly or start such a thread independently. On my home page you might select the sub-page link to my "Philosophy and Style" essay. And there is considerable one can find by searching for "image AND manipulation" on the web. You would find my real name in a fair number of forum discussions going back many years.

For the sake of a minimal reply I'll offer a terse comment that doesn't directly address your question but merely shows such questions are but the tip of a large iceberg of issues that can quickly get out of control unless narrowly focused.

marksfor >>>"what is "natural"? As perceived by the viewer of the event?"

A better term would be "reasonably natural". An argument often tossed out is that since a photograph can never exactly represent a scene and moment in time, why bother thus it might as well be anything goes. In ordinary lingo an example of tossing the baby out with the bathwater fallacy.

Re: JPEGSnoop Sniffs Out Signs of Editing

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:09 pm
by ERIC
SSSdave wrote:This hread is not place to hijack the discussion into a more general discussion about image manipulation and fidelity.
Nah. Quite the contrary, I sort of posted this article to stimulate discussion. :littledevil:

So long as it remains civil. :)

Re: JPEGSnoop Sniffs Out Signs of Editing

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:21 pm
by Buck Forester
If I take a photo of a manipulated photo, is the new unedited photo now also manipulated? :-k

Re: JPEGSnoop Sniffs Out Signs of Editing

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:27 pm
by ERIC
Buck Forester wrote:If I take a photo of a manipulated photo, is the new unedited photo now also manipulated? :-k
"Deep thoughts...by Jack Handy."

Re: JPEGSnoop Sniffs Out Signs of Editing

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:05 am
by TehipiteTom
trailblazer wrote:
markorr wrote:BTW most scientific journals in the biology realm look for altered images. They have pretty stringent rules on how images can be manipulated and how you make it clear that its been altered. My day job is a bench scientist so I run into this a lot, both in presenting data and reviewing others.
I misread your first sentence and thought "that ain't right", until I understood your point (at least, I think I did) - I read it as they look (as in look to publish) altered images :eek:
I had the same initial misreading and the same reaction, but figured it out after a moment.

In any case, now I have Don't Talk to Me About Love going through my head. ;)