Time to give the Sierra a rest?

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Re: Time to give the Sierra a rest?

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Although I backpacked several other places in westen US I always came back to the sierra because it has a very high winter to summer precipitation. The water is were you want it (not on the head). The other places I went I always got raind on. In over 500 days I probably had more than a brief afternoon shower less than 10 days. Maybe I was just lucky, but I doubt it.
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Those afternoon Rocky Mountain storms make the Rockies much more lush all summer long and the flowers bloom longer. I agree, Sierra are for the weather-reluctant! In the Sierra I can just plan about anything for each day's travel. In the Rockies, I have to be very strategic and get up before dawn, walk hard in the morning, hit passes before afternoon storms and be snug in my tent by the time the sky lets loose. That said, I have had two of my most wet-cold epics in the Sierra - caught in horrible storm on Colby Pass and an intense downpour in Gardiner Basin. And this was precisely because I was not expecting this in the Sierra! I grew up in the Pacific NW and simply thought rain was the norm in the mountains. I am glad I ended up in the Sierra, the gentle wilderness, in my old age.
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I've thought about this a lot. The options are:

A: Get to know one place extremely well
B: Get to know many places in passing

I've settled on A because it feels like home and everywhere else I'm another tourist/visitor. There are many people who have visited all of the destinations, but only a handful who know Sequoia/Kings as well as I do so I enjoy spending my time here, at home. It's all preference and this doesn't mean I don't enjoy seeing other places, just that when it comes to spending time in the mountains there are infinite things I still want to do around here before I use vacation time abroad.

Kinda like, "Sweet, I've got 5 days free in a few weeks, I would love to go to Utah! But, I've always wanted to descend Horse Creek or climb the Citadel. Yup, I'll stay here to get 5 mountains days instead of 2 travel days and 3 mountain days."
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limpingcrab wrote:I've thought about this a lot. The options are:

A: Get to know one place extremely well
B: Get to know many places in passing
I too fixate on option A. I'll throw in a B choice every once in awhile, just for exploratory reasons, but I don't just hike to hike. I like to find a place, like you that is a "second home", so to speak.

Without B, you can't find a new place you might really like!

I think this year, the fire season will be problematic. I might be not be able to go anyway (work.)
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The summer forecast for the Rockies is ALWAYS wet! -That is normal. But the wetness is manageable - almost always comes in the form of short (1 hour duration) afternoon thunderstorms, often several separated by 1-2 hours of non-rain (that stunning "storm lighting" that makes perfect photos). You just have to plan differently than what you would normally plan in the Sierra. You have to be an early-bird and "make hay when the sun shines". I actually do not get any wetter than when I am in the Sierra, because most of the time when it rains in am in the tent. The actual weather in the mountains is not nearly as bad as the forecast suggests.

I do not think you have to do either "A" or "B". I know two ranges very well - the Wind Rivers and the Sierra. And I enjoy dabbling in other areas. Helps that I made a living teaching climbing when young, and now I am retired with all the time in the world. Actually, experiencing many different ranges and weather conditions makes me a better backpacker. I am even getting the hang of coastal backpacking. Every night on any trip is "home" for me; doesn't matter where I am, old familiar place or new. I guess that is just my personality. To each his own.
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To each his own indeed! That's the beauty of the outdoors.

Still, if you are visiting many places you could know one place better than you currently do.

So it's still kind of an A or B thing ;)
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Re: Time to give the Sierra a rest?

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Yes, wet feet. I never knew one could backpack and keep feet dry until I came to the Sierra! You just learn to deal with the weather. It may be an eye-opener to Sierra backpackers who have never been anywhere else. And yes, I am a glutton for punishment and going back to the Wind Rivers in August. Expecting rain and maybe even snow.

I am headed to the Lost Coast tomorrow. Last time I did this trip, same time of year, it rained every day, one night 4 inches. I think in 7 days I had about 2 hours of sunlight. Talk about being wet - I finally gave up- only my sleeping bag stayed dry. I did not have a working camera at the time so no photos. So I am doing it again - hopefully with better weather and a camera- if I get half the days without rain I would be happy. I am doing the entire coast- including the gnarly southern section. I also had a trip in Desolation planned, but weather in the mountains is still not great- put off that trip for a week and hopefully weather will improve.
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Re: Time to give the Sierra a rest?

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limpingcrab wrote:Snowy, rainy, dry, beetle trees, burned, bushes, flowers, granite, grass, it's all just another unique face of nature so I have no preference. I will enjoy the Sierra this year as much as any other.
I agree with this. I did a trip from Roads End to Courtright Reservoir the year after the Tehipite fire, a Forest Service employee told me I wouldn't want to go through there for ten years because of the fire. For me it's just another part of nature that I don't want to miss either. I saw places where the entire stump and root system burned in the ground, leaving root tunnels. I saw places where a tree exploded and there were chunks of it all over the place. There were also areas where the vegetation was already growing.
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