What are the best Sierra hikes I have missed?

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Re: What are the best Sierra hikes I have missed?

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Thank you Socal, Tim, Sparky.

The Lower Ottoway loops seems like it would help me see a part of Yosemite that I have never encountered. And the Cottonwood to Shepherd Pass exit does seem like it would tap into classic terrain that I have missed--and since I've never been up Whitney, perhaps that is something to do before my lungs give out!

So two classic trips that I have missed. Definitely time to put them, or close relatives, on the list to consider over the next few years. Combine that with "Circle of Solitude" and Grand Canyon of the Tuolumne and that makes four classics to ponder.

I appreciate the help!
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I agree that you need to look at the old Sierra North and Sierra South Guidebooks (or the new ones). From your posts (hope I have not misinterpreted) you seem to like things planned in detail. The routes they present are well thought out and give you some detail.

I also have Arnot's book - Sierra Range of Light- every one of his trips lived up to the hype. He waxes poetic more than giving route details. His trips are destination hikes -- how to get into several highlight of the Sierra - by many different routes.

By the way, just stop thinking that 55 is old. You make us really old folks feel ancient!
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I am still referring to Starrs's Guide, as my generational "go to" Sierra guide book, but prefer this site for researching the obscure corners.
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I have a couple of other suggestions. First the Ansel Adams Wilderness and southeast Yosemite from Clover Meadow/Granite Creek. I would look at a map to determine your exact route since there are many possibilities. Essentially, you would go from the Granite Creek trailhead, past Cora, Sadler Lake and Isberg Lakes over Isberg Pass. From there, you can decide whether to go over Post Peak Pass and do a loop back to Clover Meadow or do a longer trip, over Red Peak Pass, Ottaway Lakes and back to Clover Meadow. The hike between Clover Meadow trailhead and Granite Creek trailhead is a little over a mile. There are also numerous side trips you can take such as Joe Crane Lake.

The other idea is going to the Upper Kern and Milestone Basin. This is a variation of the Circle of Solitude without the cross-country passes. From Roads End, you can go over Avalanche Pass down to Roaring River, up to Colby Lake, over Colby Pass, down to Gallats Lake and Junction Meadow. From there, turn left and follow the Lake South America Trail to Forester Pass and then back to Roads End. From the Lake South America trail, there is a clear use trail on the other side of Kern River that takes you into Milestone Basin. For the Upper Kern, there are lots of small lakes near the Lake South America trail as well as Lake South America itself. Personally, I prefer the small, off-trail lakes to Lake South America. Cross-country travel is easy in the Upper Kern area. It’s one of the easiest areas for cross-country hiking in the Sierra. One can spend days wandering around this area. One bit of advice for reaching Forester Pass is to get off the Lake South America trail about a mile after the side trail to Lake South America where you reach the bottom of the descent down to the unnamed long, thin lake. From there, head cross country to the JMT and then up to Forester Pass. It’s easy cross-country, one of those walks when you feel like you’re walking on top of the world with the Great Western Divide, the Sierra Crest, and Kern Canyon to the south.
By the way, just stop thinking that 55 is old. You make us really old folks feel ancient!


I agree. 55 is not old.
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SSSDave - That first picture that you posted just below the map link for Table Mountain sure looks like it was taken from the Little Five Lakes area, with the Kaweahs in the background. Furthermore, those are foxtail pines in the foreground and I don't think they are found as far north as Table Mountain.

To the OP, there are so many possibilities that can be reached with a little class 2 off trail. If you are willing to stretch yourself in that regard, you can visit beautiful areas like Lake Basin in Kings Canyon, all while having it to yourself. I am of similar age (51), and prefer to average 8-10 miles/day, and there are so many great places to visit.

If you want to stay on trail, work on a loop out of Crescent Meadow, over Elizabeth Pass, down Deadman Canyon, up Cloud Canyon/Colby Pass, then down to the Kern to meet the High Sierra Trail, which you will follow west back to Crescent Meadow. That covers some spectacular country, all on trail. At my pace I would take nine days to do it. For half of that route you will see few people.

I did a variation of that trip last year that you may not be interested in because it involves some significant off trail and includes a day in the gray talus that you don't care for, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. From Colby Pass we went to Gallats Lake and then went up to Picket Creek, crossed into Kaweah Basin and met up with the High Sierra Trail in Nine Lake Basin by going over Pyra-Queen col. With your stated comfort leve, you probably should avoid Pyra-Queen Col because it is a serious class 2 pass with a lot of loose talus at the top of the west side.
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Another semi-loop you could consider that is pretty much all on trail, although some of the trail is sketchy, is to go in at Rancheria to Tehipite Valley, then go up the Middle Fork Kings to the JMT, turn south on the JMT and then take Woods Creek trail to Roads End. That covers a lot of prime SEKI territory that keeps you all on trail. I took eight days at my normal pace, averaging about 10 miles/day. The stretch from Rancheria to the JMT at Palisade Creek will most likely be all yours, it does not get much traffic except for some horse traffic from Rancheria to Crown Valley.
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Hi,

Those friends of mine who are aging and are still backpacking seem to be more concerned about the steepness of the terrain than about the length of the trip. It's the knees and the joints.

Much as I desperately want to show my good friend the Palisade Glacier, I am losing hope that she will ever agree to this. The knees are just going in a bad way. 4000 vertical feet up and 4000 back down to the trailhead.

Besides Palisade Glacier - which you don't mention (though you've been nearby over Bishop Pass twice and into Sabrina x 4!) - some of the other "steep" or "big elevation gain" places I'd personally prioritize while my joints are in good shape include: Mineral King (favorite loop is over Black Rock Pass with a return via Columbine Lake/Sawtooth Pass); some of the beautiful but daunting eastside passes; and the SEKI in general, as it is just, well, more vertical than the stuff further north. You could even add Mt. Whitney and Half Dome to this list; the zoo of hikers is worth tolerating every so often in the interests of getting to the good view.

The gentler part of the Sierras, roughly from the Silver Divide area to Yosemite and northwards, will always be there for you when there is little down south that you knees can take anymore.

Just another angle to consider.

And another ringing endorsement for Phil Arnot's book. The book of his that I have is called High Sierra. I find it infinitely more colorful and inspiring than the usual guidebooks. He picks his favorite 25 or so places in all the Sierra, dedicates a chapter to each, really gives you a feel for what that place is like; and only at the end explains how you might try to get there. Some of those destinations are way off trail, but many are actually right on a trail, or are a reasonably short walk on a "use trail" off a main trail, or are easy-walking x-country areas.

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lambertiana wrote:Another semi-loop you could consider that is pretty much all on trail, although some of the trail is sketchy, is to go in at Rancheria to Tehipite Valley, then go up the Middle Fork Kings to the JMT, turn south on the JMT and then take Woods Creek trail to Roads End. That covers a lot of prime SEKI territory that keeps you all on trail. I took eight days at my normal pace, averaging about 10 miles/day. The stretch from Rancheria to the JMT at Palisade Creek will most likely be all yours, it does not get much traffic except for some horse traffic from Rancheria to Crown Valley.
I was going to suggest a loop of Roads End-->Simpson Meadow-->JMT-->Woods Creek Trail-->Roads End. Misses Tehipite, but no shuttle logistics to work out.

That said, Tehipite is well worth a visit in its own right, even if it's just a straightforward round trip.
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lambertiana wrote:SSSDave - That first picture that you posted just below the map link for Table Mountain sure looks like it was taken from the Little Five Lakes area, with the Kaweahs in the background. Furthermore, those are foxtail pines in the foreground and I don't think they are found as far north as Table Mountain...
Image is from GWD to support my comments in that paragraph that there is value slowing down and base camping. The below gallery is a monument to places unknown to the public one has no chance of finding by just rambling along on trails.

http://www.davidsenesac.com/Gallery_B/gallery_b.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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First I would like to address the idea that if someone posts a picture or posts
a TR to a remote location than all of a sudden it will be over run by crowds
of DSLR toting photographers or inexperienced backpackers. Can anyone name
a location in the backcountry (off trail) that this happened to? My experienced
in regards to photographers is that the same applies to them as 99% of backpackers
is that they stay close to the main trails like the JMT.
Majority of my clients and other pro photographer friends I know make their sales
from landscapes that are familiar to their clients, areas they can emotionally relate
to. Not many folks are going into Kaweah Basin, Ionian Basin, Muro Blanco, Dumbbell
Basin, Enchanted Gorge, and countless other remote sections of the Sierra.
These places are rarely visited by professional photographers or even backpackers.
Most amateur DSLR/Point & Shoot folks do not posses the skills that would/should
threaten an established/experienced pro photographer. The numerous hours of
planning, then hours of scouting alone would discourage them, plus add in the hours
of waiting for the optimal lighting/conditions if one is lucky enough to get it, and
then having the knowledge/experience to know how to capture it and then wrap it
up in ones unique personal and creative style is what his/her clients appreciate
and are paying for, is far beyond the reach for most.

KP, you should prioritize your trips getting to the most difficult/remote parts of
the Sierra that interest you while your body is still in good shape, this can be
extended by many years by good/smart off season training, 54 is still young.
There are many TR's posted here on HST, and on the web which you can choose
from but everyone have their preferences to what place appeals to them
emotionally. Just pick your own places/trips based on your own priorities and
research, its part of what makes the wilderness so intriguing.
Another endorsement for Phil Arnot's book, which is well written, and discusses/visits
some great places in the Sierra.
Professional Sierra Landscape Photographer

I don't give out specific route information, my belief is that it takes away from the whole adventure spirit of a trip, if you need every inch planned out, you'll have to get that from someone else.

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