Early season hiking

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Re: Early season hiking

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Hi Daniel. I'm live in Huntington Beach presently and am a member of SCSF as well. Typically late April is a little early for the High Sierra unless you are prepared for snow travel. The Bishop/Mammoth area may be a little too far north for your purpose. However, due to the low snow fall this year, especially in the south, you should be able to plan a good trip in the southern Sierra.

How many days do you have for your trip? How far or how many hours are you willing to hike per day? Do you need a layover day? Are you fixed on lakes as a destination/goal or will other mountain features interest you? For example, spring run off time is often spectacular for cascades, waterfalls, etc.

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Re: Early season hiking

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Hey thanks for the reply, appreciate it very much! And glad to see another brother from scsurf over here! My favorite fishing site!

Well, thanks for helping out. What do you mean by southern Sierra?

Actually for this trip we are only going to do two day hikes. So, we hopefully wont be hiking too much because ill have friends who are very new to hiking. So, im hoping to keep the mileage under a total of 6-7 miles max hopefully.

As an avid fisherman, I am somewhat mostly fixated on a body of water as our destination. We want to spend the day, and just enjoy the outdoors. My hopes are to get my friends hooked, and will hopefully come outdoors with me more often.

So, if you , or anyone else have any recommendations, I would greatly appreciate it.

I would like to try to get away from most of the Trout Opener crowds.

At this point I was thinking of taking Tim's recommendation of heading up the to Rock Creek Lakes, in the little lakes valley... Would anybody be able to give me their opinion if im dreaming or if this might be a possibility the weekend of Apr 28?

Thank you so much for all you help, I appreciate it very much! PM's are welcome as well.
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Re: Early season hiking

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At the moment things are not going your way. It's snowing right now up at Rock Creek. It's looking less likely that you'll be able to hike to any eastside lakes with open water on april 28th - but it could happen. Just depends on whether it warms up fast right after this current storm. According to the 10-day Mammoth Lakes forecast, it will warm up pretty well from the 15th thru the 22nd. But I'd be making alternate plans - like some spectacular desert hiking - just in case.
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Re: Early season hiking

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If someone wanted to get out, like now, there is always the Middle Fork Kaweah Trail, or as I call it, The Low Sierra Trail. Check out this site looking part ways up that drainage. Look carefully about mid picture and you can see the (dry) trail:
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There will be some wet crossings, and even in early season they were not hard when I did them. You could probably go all the way to Redwood Meadow and beyond right now. It is all below 7000 feet unless you head for Pinto Lake or up to Bearpaw and etc. Some of the streams are bridged. Lots of good camping along the way. Plenty of trailhead parking.
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Re: Early season hiking

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Way too early to be thinking "a great day hike to a beautiful lake" in the Eastern Sierra. Most fishermen in the ES for the trout opener will be fishing the roadside areas like Crowley reservoir, June Lake Loop lakes, Owens River, and its valley tributary streams.

From the Inyo NF site report on April 16:

Some winter road closures have been opened in preparation for fishing season opener.The Bishop Creek road closures remain at Bishop Ck Lodge and just past Aspendale. Rock Creek is now open to the lake although all campgrounds remain closed due to snow or water systems issues. The road into the Big Pine Canyon is now open.
Old Mammoth Road to Lakes Basin CLOSED for the season
Reds Meadow/Devils Postpile 203 CLOSED for the season


But if you are set on a trip to the ES, you can still find nice camping and hiking down in the Owens Valley areas from Bishop south. Yes those places that are hot, dry, and unpleasant when you visit during July. But it is late April aka spring and the sun's altitude is lower and less intense even midday. Areas that are nicely green and flowery in their spring. Any areas north of there, will be dormant for a few more weeks as snow storms can still occur right in the valley. Might end up hiking on old jeep roads or crosscountry versus backpacking trails. Thus forget about lakes and instead think of places to explore and camp at like these:

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=36.60840,-118.10097&z=15&t=T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=36.99676,-118.30885&z=15&t=T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Early season hiking

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I wouldn't give up completely on Rock Creek, although its worth noting there might well be another storm around the last weekend of the month, so that might not be so good for your trip. It sounds like the road is already open to the lake, so its a pleasant day hike from there up the road to Mosquito Flat. The snow sensor indicates that all of last week's snow at Rock Creek has already melted, and its expected to be very hot for the next week or so. You would likely need to walk on snow some of the way but it should be fairly easy on the road. Depending on how early in the day you go, snowshoes or microspikes might be in order for some of it. I had a great day hike (on far more snow) up to 9500ft near Mt Rose when we were in Tahoe the first week of April.

Here's a set of photos from April 8 on Mt Tom (i.e. before most recent storm), with views into Pine Creek (just to the south of Rock Creek) that I found on the Whitney Portal message board:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moosepics6 ... 914549086/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also note that there will be plenty of activity around Whitney Portal at the end of April (just before permit season starts) and you can drive up there as well. Again some snow walking but its patchy and there will be a decent trail - plenty of good pictures on the Whitney board (see http://www.whitneyportalstore.com/forum ... d=1&page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).
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Re: Early season hiking

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Here is a place I like to go in the off season. Well, besides the desert :D

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Re: Early season hiking

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Hey Bud,
Here's a thought: from the other posts, I'm inferring you're driving up from southern CA. If that's the case, you'll save yourself an hour (or more) of driving by staying in Lone Pine and taking hikes from there. In another thread, folks have indicated that the road to Horseshoe Meadows (which cuts off the Whitney Portal Road out of Lone Pine) is open. There are great hikes from there both over Cottonwood Pass (barely a pass, but as you work your way toward Chicken Springs Lake, huge vistas open up toward the West) and to the Cottonwood Lakes. Also, it's a relatively easy hike to the first lakes along the Kearsarge Pass trail out of Onion Valley (the OV road leaves from Independence, the next hamlet N of Lone Pine on 395). If you want to spend more time outdoors with less chance of snow and less time driving, this area is great. This link (below) has webcams focused on Whitney and Williamson, the two towering 14ers that overlook Lone Pine & Independence.
http://www.sierravisionsstock.com/sierr ... a-webcams/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Early season hiking

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Hi Daniel,

There are day hikes in the Mountain Home State Forest, the Golden Trout Wilderness, and the South Sierra Wilderness that are low enough in elevation to be snow-free or just have patches of snow, and that go by water (streams not lakes) that you can fish. A good resource for these hikes is a book by Suzanne Swedo, "Hiking California's Golden Trout Wilderness". I'm in Huntington Beach if you want to look over my copy.

Here are some brief descriptions. Mileage is for the full loop or out and back. # is trip # in the book:
#1. 8.2mi loop. Trailhead = Hidden Falls Campground on the Middle Fork of the Tule River. Trail goes past Giant Sequoias and crosses some streams. The spring run off may make the crossings inadvisable.

#2. 3.6mi loop. Trailhead = Hidden Falls Campground on the Middle Fork of the Tule River. This trail avoids the stream crossings of #1. Side trip to waterfall possible.

#8. 9.2mi out & back. Trailhead = Jerkey Meadow. Hike to Little Kern River and back.

#9. 9.2mi out & back. Trailhead = Lewis Camp. Hike to Little Kern River and back.

#13. 4.4mi out & back. Trailhead = Forks of the Kern. Hike to Little Kern River & back. If you are able to cross the Little Kern you can hike up the Kern River for another 8.5mi or so.

#22. 12mi out & back. Trailhead = Blackrock. Hike to Jordan Hot Springs and back.

#39. 12.2mi out & back. Trailhead = Haiwee Pass. Hike over Haiwee Pass from the eastside and go down to the South Fork of the Kern River, and back.

#43 Variable milage, out & back. Trailhead = Kennedy Meadows. Hike north on the Pacific Crest Trail near the South Fork of the Kern River and Craig Creek. Turn around at any distance.

Hope this isn't too late and helps some.

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Re: Early season hiking

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Just an fyi -- the Haiwee Pass trail (#39) was washed out the previous winter. I don't know if it has since been reopened. Sage Flat would be a nice alternative (goes a bit higher, but that won't be a problem for this low-snow season).
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