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Re: Cross Country Route

Postby RoguePhotonic » Sun May 29, 2011 11:53 am

It appears to have the best south western or western exposure ( Milly's foot, Lucy's foot and Harrison all face north )


That looks like a long very steep descent. It may be more Western exposure but I don't think it will matter at that altitude at the time of year I should be passing through. I am going to be on snow on any of these passes I take. I will probably be on snow through allot of the whole area. I still hope to make it across Harrison.

I noted though it is an error that my route says I should camp at East Kennedy Lake. I plan to cross Kennedy Pass that day and stay around Frypan Meadow.

Also I have considered the idea of when I get back to VVR instead of taking the JMT South I could take their van shuttle system to Florence Lake and get a better jump on this cross country section which cuts out at least one day to make my pack load lighter.

As for my dad once again I have to say that you just don't know him. I agree completely with what you mean by parents and kids as ages go on but he is different lol.

You are right though that I guess I will have to make sure he has what he needs before leaving.

I have always figured that with SAR of course. Even if you were alive long enough to write notes about what happened and tell them to leave you here it just wont be done. Might violate the wilderness act.

So far all the pieces are moving into place for this hike. I have all gear ready to go and have started buying supplies for the packages I will send ahead. Maybe I shouldn't say it online but I hope to have a minimum of 2000$ on the go. Hopefully that will be enough for all my supplies and to enjoy having a burger when I can at the resorts.



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Re: Cross Country Route

Postby oldranger » Mon May 30, 2011 2:51 pm

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Consider relatively little cash and credit or debit card + a check or two. Once I even asked for credit and sent a check when I got home.

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Re: Cross Country Route

Postby RoguePhotonic » Mon May 30, 2011 3:04 pm

I can't do checks because I have never had a bank account but I plan to do half and half. I have a pre paid credit card that I will probably throw half the money and then cash for the rest. Cards have always made me nervous because they can fail you or the services for them can be down.

Getting jacked on the trail is the least of my worries. The only time theft even comes to mind is when I am around a resort doing my business while my pack sits outside unattended.
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Re: Cross Country Route

Postby East Side Hiker » Tue May 31, 2011 7:28 am

All I can say is that you have an amazing schedule, and if you stick to it that will be a feat. Those stream crossings are going to be difficult probably into July. September days will probalby be wonderful, estecially in alpine areas as those flower fields will probably be peaking then.

Personally, I don't think I've ever made a schedule in such detail like the one you posted. I wander too much once I'm out there. For me, I see a peak or two I want to ascend, do that a couple times in a week, and there goes the plans.
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Re: Cross Country Route

Postby RoguePhotonic » Tue May 31, 2011 12:05 pm

Yeah my schedule will most certainly change along the way. It's inevitable to fall behind or need more rest days.

And since this spring has failed me with warm weather who knows what sorts of problems I may find along the way. Encountering snow isn't always about it's just slower or more tricky on passes. It can be falling in waist deep and simply being unable to continue through such conditions.

I do think my hike is encouraging in the way that if I can get through the first two weeks then after that my route doesn't go where I may have a problem with snow until I start the Sierra High Route at the end of July.

With planning though I spend so much time with all the logistics on these sorts of hikes that when I wanted to start planning a thru hike of the PCT it just seemed like an over whelming task but it really isn't since you don't plan exactly where your going to camp each day.
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Re: Cross Country Route

Postby Mike M. » Tue May 31, 2011 5:15 pm

Personally, I don't think I've ever made a schedule in such detail like the one you posted. I wander too much once I'm out there. For me, I see a peak or two I want to ascend, do that a couple times in a week, and there goes the plans.


Same with me. The longest hike I ever took was a 40 day solo effort. I had a vague idea of my route -- with one rendezvous planned for Day 12 and a food resupply on Day 23. Other than that, it was go where I wanted. I made up my own Sierra High Route (didn't know about Roper's), zig zagging along the Sierra crest starting at Mono Pass and ending south of Whitney.

Those were the days!

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Re: Cross Country Route

Postby Wandering Daisy » Tue May 31, 2011 6:29 pm

I am an obsessive planner and every trip I do is planned in even more detail! When doing long routes with multiple resupplies, good planning goes a long ways to make the trip more successful. That is not to say you are going to spend every night where designated. Some days go a bit slower, some faster but at least you have a concrete idea of how many miles to the next water or camping spot. It all depends if your trip is a focused goal oriented trip or just a number of days to wander around the wilderness. Just because you are goal oriented does not mean you do not "smell the roses". I find the planning more important for long off-trail routes than a trail route. I say "good for you" that you planned so well.
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Re: Cross Country Route

Postby East Side Hiker » Tue May 31, 2011 7:03 pm

I too am obsessive, and I generally agree with WD, but for me, schedules are not part of my over-all trip. Visits up side-draingaes, ascents of peaks that intrigue me... thoughts of beautiful off-route meadows... make itineraries of mine unachievble.

I'm scheduled to start up Lamark Col on Aug 8 and leave over Shepherp Pass on Sept 7. During that time, I really can't say where I will be on a particular day. When I pick up my permit, they will ask for an itinerary, and I honestly cannot give them one that will be reliable. Who knows what will happen after walking through the Ionian Basin. Snow, peaks, and etc. will dictate much of it.

I surely remember taking 2 days of 30 mile hikes trying to find Jim Jenkins parents. They had an itinerary, but deviated, which made hunting for them very difficult, though I did finally succeed.

I was just saying that itineraries are just that, and deviations are to be expected, by me at least, due to all the wonder and secrets that the High Sierra presents. And that having an itinerary, is, for me, unreliable and undoable (is that a word?).

But I do respect RoguePhotonic's planning, and wish him well. Just keep yourself centered, have a good debate in your mind whether or not to try something, and be careful.
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Re: Cross Country Route

Postby RoguePhotonic » Tue May 31, 2011 8:12 pm

You should see the text document I have for this hike. I have every detail planned of exactly how many supplies I need where and when. Gear list and addresses of resupply points. How many meals I need to buy at home and how many on trail.
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Re: Cross Country Route

Postby East Side Hiker » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:30 pm

You are relentless, and I wish you good luck. I wish I was going along. As I said before, watch those stream crossings. There's usually a good crossing to find upstream...
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