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Re: Wilderness Permit Information

Post by fpb56 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:56 pm

I might be wrong but with the snow levels this year I think getting a wilderness permit should be easy.








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Post by fpb56 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:15 pm

Just gave up 3 permits for July 18-25, entry May Lake

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Re: Wilderness Permit Information

Post by grampy » Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:08 pm

As mentioned by potatopants in her “Yosemite North to South 2020” thread, the Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest is switching over to Recreation.gov for Hoover Wilderness permit reservations - formerly (but no longer) available by U.S. Mail.
Here is the USFS announcement:
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/htnf/hom ... rdb5238673

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Re: Wilderness Permit Information

Post by wsp_scott » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:14 am

Does anyone know if Inyo permits on Recreation.gov are released at 7am
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Re: Wilderness Permit Information

Post by ironmike » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:40 am

I believe it’s midnight, not 7am.

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Re: Wilderness Permit Information

Post by TurboHike » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:31 pm

wsp_scott wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:14 am
Does anyone know if Inyo permits on Recreation.gov are released at 7am
10 a.m. Eastern, so 7 a.m. Pacific time.

I have never seen the permits released late, but a few times last year they were released early by a couple of hours. I was told this was a glitch in the system.

This is the official clock by the way:

https://www.time.gov/

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Re: Wilderness Permit Information

Post by wsp_scott » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:14 am

I have been paying attention to the Inyo permits on recreation.gov for the last couple of days. I don't know what time the permits are being released but it is definitely not 10am eastern.

I checked last night (1/27) around 9pm eastern and only 7/27 permits were available. This morning (1/28) at 6:30am eastern permits for 7/28 were available. Based on this, I assume that permits are being released at midnight (no idea if it is eastern or pacific). I got my 7/28 permit this morning so I am not going to bother calling to figure things out.

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Re: Wilderness Permit Information

Post by SirBC » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:45 am

There was talk last year of Inyo perhaps expanding the no walk-up policy beyond Whitney. Is there any indication of that happening this year?
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Re: Wilderness Permit Information

Post by wsp_scott » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:54 am

SirBC wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:45 am
There was talk last year of Inyo perhaps expanding the no walk-up policy beyond Whitney. Is there any indication of that happening this year?
The Inyo site (https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DO ... 143453.pdf) still lists quotas divided between reserved and walkup.

Baxter Pass - 8 permits with 5 reserved and 3 walkup
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Re: Wilderness Permit Information

Post by Wandering Daisy » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:36 am

So is the ultimate goal to eliminate rangers who write in-person first-come permits? Is it a cost issue? Don't you still have to pick up your permit and get the "talk"? I really think the personal interaction between the rangers and the backpacker is really good PR for the Forest Service.

In my opinion in-person walk-up permits are the only way to fairly utilize the last minute "no-shows". If that means a permit fee, instead of free as it is now, so be it, but if you are required to go through the internet, then you are shutting out those who are less tech literate. If it were a matter of who can punch buttons on an I-phone more quickly to get to the head of the line, I would NEVER get a permit!

A first-come permit in SEKI still requires a permit reservation fee. Not that I like it, but if that is what you need to keep the first-come in person system, that is OK with me. I hope Inyo adopts this system, if they simply need more money.

But perhaps in the future FS desks will be manned by robots. :eek:

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