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Re: USDA alert no fire allowed?

Postby jessegooddog » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:29 am

And its not just campers who are careless. Years ago, I put out a small fire ignited by flares left burning after an accident in Yosemite nearly Glacier Point! And in the Santa Monica Mountains very close to my former home, I stopped and argued with a highway patrolman who also had flares burning right at the edge of the dry grasses. I was so pissed I moved them myself and he was none too pleased.



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Re: USDA alert no fire allowed?

Postby SSSdave » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:03 pm

caddis wrote:
AlmostThere wrote:What I'm upset with are the folks out there who feel they are somehow special and get to ignore reasonable precautions or regulations.


Are they reasonable precautions and regulations?? If you look at Exhibit A in the the forest service's own Forest Order 15-13-08, it lists that the sierra above 7-8000 feet as a "Low Fire Hazard Area"

http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOC ... 427487.pdf


I looked at the Sierra National Forest Hazard Areas Map map in your link and the noted low fire hazard colored areas actually contain some areas of vast forest. Although significant areas of the low fire hazard colored area, especially the at or above timberline areas are low dangers, there are other forest areas within those regions especially down on canyon bottoms where dense forest exists. Thus suspect the meaning of that has more to do with dangers to developed areas of which there is little at those higher elevations and the potential impact that might have on our limited fire fighting resources to deal with any fires in more critical low elevation areas.
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Re: USDA alert no fire allowed?

Postby ERIC » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:26 pm

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Re: USDA alert no fire allowed?

Postby caddis » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:57 am

AlmostThere wrote:
caddis wrote:I'm afraid you don't understand my point. It's an extreme measure for extreme conditions yet they freely admit that conditions aren't even close to extreme at elevations in which most people backpack.


It sounds to me like just another controlling, oppressive, unreasonable regulation put in place by a lazy bureaucrat.



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