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The cost of being rescued

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Re: The cost of being rescued

Postby RoguePhotonic » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:11 am

That all depends on how you enter into the treatment. I could be wrong but you only have to be treated if you are brought in through the ER. If you come in normally you can be rejected.



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Re: The cost of being rescued

Postby oldranger » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:48 am

Russ

I assume you also carry your fishing license--that is a form of ID.

While I used to limit my bc info to drivers license, credit card, fishing license and a little bit of cash, I now also carry medicare card and other insurance plus list of drugs and other medical info. Doesn't weigh much and on the off chance I get medivaced I will have all the resources needed to avoid mistreatment and to support myself if released in an unexpected location without having to stress out my wife any more than the situation warrants. I will also probably start carrying a check as there are a few remote places that do not take credit cards. (I actually stayed at Muir trail Ranch once where they accepted my good word and I later sent them a check to cover the cost of my visit. But I don't count on that kind of trust.)

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Re: The cost of being rescued

Postby gdurkee » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:21 am

Mike's right. I always carry both driver's license and credit card. You never know where you're going to end up. We've taken people out, naked in their sleeping bags in true emergency grab 'n go. I've always imagined these guys being released from the hospital in their drafty gown, holding their sleeping bag and trying to hitch a ride home... .

NPS (Yosemite and Sequoa Kings anyway) have park medics -- close to the paramedic level -- who routinely go on all medevacs. There's no charge. I've actually never heard of medical assistance as a charge when volunteer county sheriff teams are involved unless a medi-flight helicopter responds. They're private and will charge, though insurance can cover it.

AlmostThere: How does that work? Who are the advanced medical responders sent to create that cost? And what county? -- thanks.

The usual sequence in Sequoia Kings is person is picked up in backcountry. If it's medically necessary (and it often is) they're transferred to the park ambulance at the heliport then taken to meet a private ambulance for a transfer. Then off to Fresno or Visalia. On the east side, it's direct to private ambulance and then Northern Inyo in Bishop. Once transferred to either NPS or private ambulance, that's billed but not before -- not the park helicopter, not the medical assistance or involved personnel. On very rare occasions, when someone is in violation and doing something incredibly -- incredibly -- stupid, there's an attempt to charge. Pretty rare.

If CHP helicopter responds, I'm pretty sure they don't charge nor does Navy at LeMoor or Fallon. CHP flies pretty heavy though and isn't ideal at altitudes over 8,000 or so.

Finally, I keep seeing quotes like this:

Recent advancements in outdoor equipment, navigational devices and off-road vehicles are allowing greater access to remote areas by more people with fewer outdoors and survival skills, complicating rescue missions, Gingery said.


Maybe that's happening, but I sure don't see it. That is, an increase in rescues or searches as a result of inexperience or reliance on tech. It happens, but I don't think there's a dramatic increase.

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Re: The cost of being rescued

Postby Snow Nymph » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:00 am

I'm hoping there isn't a charge for the CHP helo evacuation, I heard 35K somewhere (probably a response on FB). I think there might be a big charge for the morphine given on helo. I know my deductible will be met by ER & Surgery charges. I found out I paid the extra $7.95 for Rescue Insurance thru my SPOT service, so that might cover some or part of the morphine or if there is a helo charge (CHP came in, YOSAR had the Aspen fire to deal with). I left condo key in my truck which was at the trailhead til some friends picked it up. Luckily HOA mgr was able to let me in. I always carry medical insurance card, CADL and credit card with me. Didn't think about meds/supplements list but I'll add that to first aid since I take a lot of vitamins/supplements. A little relief after reading this thread. Thanks!
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