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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby wingman » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:07 am

NG TOPO! maps:

I asked NG about windows 8 and the TOPO state series being compatible and here was their response:

"Unfortunately, TOPO! is not compatible with Windows 8.

TOPO! was discontinued before the release of Windows 8."

There are no upgrades or substitutions. TOPO! still runs on the operating systems that are listed as compatible on the box.

Not sure what other mapping software will allow us to flag waypoints and then download them to a GPS (mine is a Garmin 60Cxs0.



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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby FeetFirst » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:39 pm

gdurkee wrote:You could also consider a dynamic map using ArcGIS Explorer Online. (arcgisonline.com/explorer). You create a free Esri account and then have a place to store maps and data, making them private or available to the public. There's map tools to draw lines, points and polygons and label them. You can then save the map to your account. The Share function allows an address to the map; posting on Twitter or Facebook; or getting the html to embed in a web page.

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I've been playing with the ArcGIS Explorer Online and it's great for creating and sharing trips with people to follow along. One problem I'm having though is I cannot add pictures to my feature pop-up windows. I've read the help file and it appears that the Explorer Online version does not support https URLs (I'm trying to link to my Google Photos account). I'm going to try the free Desktop version to see if that works.
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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby rlown » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:55 pm

wingman wrote:NG TOPO! maps:

I asked NG about windows 8 and the TOPO state series being compatible and here was their response:

"Unfortunately, TOPO! is not compatible with Windows 8.

TOPO! was discontinued before the release of Windows 8."

There are no upgrades or substitutions. TOPO! still runs on the operating systems that are listed as compatible on the box.

Not sure what other mapping software will allow us to flag waypoints and then download them to a GPS (mine is a Garmin 60Cxs0.


Garmin has their own mapping SW. I still use mapsource (their sw).. I have two mapsets from them the 2008 set for the US and the Western NPS set. I can freely upload tracks and download maps from either set to the Rino 530.

There is a new mapset, but at 129 buxx, I haven't pulled the trigger.

The NPS set is at a better granularity than the general 2008 US map.

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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby gdurkee » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:39 pm

Feetfirst: Yes, I had that problem. It links to some photo sites, but not others. Check the help forum at Esri -- I fiddled with that last year but can't remember what I did. I do know that one of my Esri buddies has posted points with popups allowing a set of photos you can click through.

Hmm. Try these:
http://blogs.esri.com/esri/gisedcom/201 ... e-process/

or this:
http://blogs.esri.com/esri/gisedcom/201 ... rst-steps/

Read carefully that one because it has you checking the photograph properties to link directly to the jpg. I vaguely remember trying it and it worked... .

Would be good to post here on how you did it or couldn't do it.

Thanks,

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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby gdurkee » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:49 pm

Not sure what other mapping software will allow us to flag waypoints and then download them to a GPS (mine is a Garmin 60Cxs0.


Wingman. Try DNR GPS, the latest version of DNR Garmin. It's a great utility that will both download from a GPS and upload to it. You have to remember that the Garmin 60 won't accept lines, only points and waypoints. Not sure how it does routes, I've not experimented with that. You can then Save downloaded GPS files as gpx, shp (for ArcGIS stuff), csv. If you also get GPS Babel, you can convert to a huge number of other format -- Magellan etc. Both are free, though I think GPS Babel asks for a donation.

I will here modestly recommend a book I co-authored: Using GIS for Wildland Search and Rescue, by Esri Press (available free as a PDF download at MapSAR.net). Although it's aimed towards SAR, it's actually a pretty good primer on all things GIS: Coordinate systems, using a GPS, transferring data, making basic maps with ArcGIS Explorer desktop.

I'm also developing a fully online class: The GIS Essentials, which will cover the basics of this stuff. It'll be awhile, but will be offered online through Columbia College in Sonora, CA. May at the earliest, but quite possibly not until next fall.

Oh. PS: there are several advantages to ArcGIS Explorer Desktop. If you have your own digital maps, it works without an Internet connection. You can get almost any digital map type (both USGS Topos and all scales and satellite imagery) for free, store what you're likely to use on your hard drive. It'll also download "basemaps" -- either topo or imagery -- when you're connected as well. Which is to say it doesn't depend on propitiatory digital maps like Garmin, Magellan etc. The book we wrote gives places to get the maps from (and I think Eric has links elsewhere on the forum).

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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby FeetFirst » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:07 pm

gdurkee wrote:Feetfirst: Yes, I had that problem. It links to some photo sites, but not others. Check the help forum at Esri -- I fiddled with that last year but can't remember what I did. I do know that one of my Esri buddies has posted points with popups allowing a set of photos you can click through.

Hmm. Try these:
http://blogs.esri.com/esri/gisedcom/201 ... e-process/

or this:
http://blogs.esri.com/esri/gisedcom/201 ... rst-steps/

Read carefully that one because it has you checking the photograph properties to link directly to the jpg. I vaguely remember trying it and it worked... .

Would be good to post here on how you did it or couldn't do it.

Thanks,

g.



Hi gdurkee, Thank you for the suggestions, but unfortunately it's still not working for me. I'm familiar with the types of links provided in Google's Picas Web Albums and I believe I'm using the correct one and just to be sure I've tried all different styles (e.g. direct URL, html). Here's the link to the photo in the format that seems correct to me: ("https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b58ww88d258/T82e6phYFoI/AAAAAAAAFZA/9Y9qaCT9I4w/s640/IMG_7361.JPG").

I've read the help files, instructions, and various web forums (including the links you provided - thanks), but they seem to focus on using the correct image link, which I don't think is the problem I'm experiencing.

Here's a link to my test map in ArcGIS Explorer Online ("AGEO"). Note the "Camp #1" feature pop-up and how I've attempted to link a photo: http://www.arcgis.com/explorer/?open=b4 ... 6.23208214

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby gdurkee » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:09 pm

OK. It is a bit frustrating, but I just got it to work with Flickr following the instructions here:

http://blogs.esri.com/esri/arcgis/2012/ ... -web-maps/

In the HTML source code, you choose the one with a direct link to the jpg -- which you've done, so not sure what's happening there, but I don't have a googleusercontent account -- assume that's a photo storage place? Hmm. I probably do have one. Let me check. OK. I got it to work from within my Google+ Photo account. I clicked on the photo in the album, then right clicked on the photo to "copy image location" and got this:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tV8w ... all%29.JPG.

That worked as a popup. I entered in both Image URL & Image Link URL. Next will figure out how to do a series... .

Also make sure you set the permission of the photo to Public... .

As a start, test with the fireplug example used in the Esri blog instructions, then work from there. That's what I did to start.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby gdurkee » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:39 pm

This might be getting way too geeky, but a very cool looking technique for putting photos on routes:

http://blogs.esri.com/esri/arcgis/2012/ ... a-web-map/

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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby gdurkee » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:49 pm

FeetFirst -- boy, I really need a life. I keep fiddling and posting an endless stream here. I noticed your campsite icon has only the one URL link. I pasted the same photo link into the Related Link box. It still comes up with the red x, but when you click on the link, it goes to the photo. When I tested the google link and Flickr on my test map in Explorer online, I got the red x -- linked -- with Google but the photo popup with Flickr. Also, both show with just arcgisonline maps. Weird. I'll figure it out eventually... . But at least the X is linked to the photo, though with google doesn't show up in the popup (though, as mentioned, Flickr does. Interesting to test with other photo sites...).

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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby FeetFirst » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:56 pm

Okay, it appears that ArcGIS Explorer Online does not support encrypted links (https://) for photos, which is what Google gives you for a direct link. So, I just removed the "s" from the https, and it works! Here's the image link that now works in the pop-ups: http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b58ww ... G_7361.JPG

Thanks again for all your help!
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Re: Topo map postings?

Postby gdurkee » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:09 pm

Ha! Brilliant -- thanks.

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