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Re: Run-ins with authorities

Postby Fly Guy Dave » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:03 pm

I believe that previously mentioned confrontation at Yosemite in 1970 was discussed a part of the book The Last Season by Eric Blehm. That incident is not the focus of the book, but it does give an insight into the life of a NP ranger and some of the people they encounter. A good read!

I can't say that I've ever had any confrontations with any "backwoods Barney Fife" types, most have merely been doing their job, which I understand and respect. However, I have to look at any law enforcement, wilderness or big city, that some people should NOT be given any authority over others, but not all of them are like that.
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Run-ins with authorities

Postby ScoobyMike » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:12 pm

In '70 I was 15 living in Hulls Cove, just outside Acadia National Park. Biggest issue in the park was the locals shooting the deer that infested the area. Park Rangers were
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Postby ScoobyMike » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:13 pm

Pretty good to the locals...
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Re: Run-ins with authorities

Postby Jimr » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:26 am

Age does matter! It’s not so much age, but the difference between reading about it and experiencing it. Experience is the key. It is impossible to capture more than a glimpse of events and their significance from history books. One groups history is another’s propaganda, so who is right? It’s all a perspective and a narrow one at that. What was happening was largely dependent upon who you were, where you were, and where you stood relative to the events.

We were in the midst of a war that had grown very unpopular. American youth were struggling to speak their mind and be heard by an adult society that grew up under the idea that children should be seen, not heard. The generation gap was a chasm apart. To top it off, there was a drug culture that hung like a cloud (laced with THC), further deepening the gap and adding a whole new dimension to the already civil unrest. We were also well into unrest over civil rights that echoed the same sort of rift between the status quo and the need for change. The methods for dealing with this type of civil unrest were ineffective and the actions from both sides were often unconscionable. The times, they were a changin’ and the learning curve was high for all sides.

Using terms suggestive of Nazi Germany in any respect, I believe, reviles the discussion and minimizes the true nature of the atrocities perpetuated during one of modern history’s darkest eras.

While we can all point to many aspects of American society as evidence to prove or disprove the idea that our civil liberties are being eroded, I think by and large, we still enjoy a very free society. I do believe we, as a people should be very wary of any legislation that infringes on our liberties. As an individual, I think it is especially important to be wary of any legislation that affects another’s liberties, but not mine, because tomorrow, the tide may turn with precedent set.
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Re: Run-ins with authorities

Postby rlown » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:46 am

is there a point in that statement? what does it have to do with DFG, Yose or Seki run-ins?
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Re: Run-ins with authorities

Postby Jimr » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:01 pm

With respect to the content of the entire thread, yes. With a specific arm of authority, only indirectly.
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Re: Run-ins with authorities

Postby Troutdog 59 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:44 pm

Jimr wrote:I do believe we, as a people should be very wary of any legislation that infringes on our liberties. As an individual, I think it is especially important to be wary of any legislation that affects another’s liberties, but not mine, because tomorrow, the tide may turn with precedent set.


Well said!
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Is just a case of others' suffering
Or you'll find that you're joining in
The turning away"
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Re: Run-ins with authorities

Postby rlown » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:36 pm

assuming you have legislation.. In my opinion, they removed trout from Yose illegally.. We had no say, as the public. There was no legislation to talk about.
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Re: Run-ins with authorities

Postby Snow Nymph » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:31 pm

Yeah, me too!
Expose yourself to your deepest fear; after that, fear has no power, and the fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free . . . . Jim Morrison


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