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Re: So what is on your 2011 Christmas wish list?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:39 am
by oldranger
Markskor,

You wrote,
a perky little number that tasted like putrid testicle sweat off a dead cow.
I take it you were lost and desperate once?

Merry Christmas

Re: So what is on your 2011 Christmas wish list?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:44 am
by oldranger
Russ,
balzaccom wrote:
Don't have much of a list this year---we have what we need.

Unless someone can send me some free time? I always appreciate THAT one!


why is it semi-retired types never have free time?
Remember that nature abhors a vacuum! So our schedule fills up!

Paul,

I'd even pay for a little extra time!

Merry Christmas!

Mike

Re: So what is on your 2011 Christmas wish list?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:18 am
by quentinc
gary c. wrote:Although, I have been keeping my eye out for a Therm-A-Rest NeoAir All Season pad on sale. ;)
Does the NeoAir come only in that appalling radioactive yellow? Since it's unlikely to help anyone get rescued or protect them from hunters, this is simply beyond my limited comprehension. :\
But I do need something to replace my most recent leaking Big Bad Agnes air mattress. I've already gone through 5 defective ones in 2 years. REI keeps replacing them for free, but that doesn't help much when one goes flat on you during a trip.

Re: So what is on your 2011 Christmas wish list?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:22 am
by oldranger
Quentinc,

Are the valves going bad, the seams, or are you getting punctures?

Mike

Re: So what is on your 2011 Christmas wish list?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:32 am
by quentinc
With the Big Agnes, it's almost always the valves. So there's no repair possible when you're stranded out in the backcountry with an Airless Core.

What I've been using lately is a state-of-the-art as of 15 years ago Therm-a-rest. It's comfortable, durable and easy to inflate, but it's really bulky and I'm sure it's heavier too.

Re: So what is on your 2011 Christmas wish list?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:36 am
by rlown
quentinc wrote:
gary c. wrote:Although, I have been keeping my eye out for a Therm-A-Rest NeoAir All Season pad on sale. ;)
Does the NeoAir come only in that appalling radioactive yellow?
The good news is they changed the All Season pad color to a nice blue:

http://cascadedesigns.com/therm-a-rest/ ... on/product" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: So what is on your 2011 Christmas wish list?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:44 am
by quentinc
It looks green to me, but either way it's a vast improvement. :) I see this one is heavier than the yellow one. How do they compare? [Actually, now I see there was a thread from last year in the Outdoor Gear section, so I guess I should really be posting this there.]

Re: So what is on your 2011 Christmas wish list?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:39 pm
by markskor
RE. NeoAir/Thermarest options-
All with the shorty (47 inch) model for comparison –

New NeoAir Trekker (blue):
http://www.campmor.com/thermarest-neoai ... pla&ci_kw=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;{keyword}
Weight: 1 lb.
Thickness: 2.5 in.
R value: 2.0


ProLite (orange):
http://www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/shop/p ... 0000001_-1_" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Weight: 310 g / 11 oz.
Thickness: 2.5 cm. / 1 in.
R-value: 2.2

Women's ProLite Sleeping Pad
http://www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/shop/p ... 0000001_-1_" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Weight: 460 g / 1 lb
Thickness: 2.5 cm. / 1 in.
R-value: 2.8

NeoAir All season
http://www.rei.com/product/830684/therm ... eeping-pad" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
No shorty model – (shortest is 66 inches/20 inches)
Weight 18 oz - 20 inch wide - 19 oz for 25 inch wide
Thickness 2 ½ inches
R value 4.8

NeoAir X-lite
http://cascadedesigns.com/therm-a-rest/ ... te/product" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Weight 8 oz
Thickness 2.5 inches
R-value 3.2

Thermarest Limon
http://www.backcountrygear.com/therm-a-rest-neoair.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Weight 9 oz
Thickness 2 ½ inches
R-value 2.5

Other than the thickness – 2 ½ inches vs. 1 inch, to me the Prolite wins but…what is 5 ounces?

Re: So what is on your 2011 Christmas wish list?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:52 pm
by gary c.
I'm far from an ultralite kind of guy so the NeoAir All Season at 72in with a 4.8 R value still sounds pretty good to me at 19oz. It's the $150 price tag that keeps me from giving up my Big Agnes. I've been useing my BA for something like 6rys and never had a problem with it thank goodness.

Re: So what is on your 2011 Christmas wish list?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:44 pm
by rlown
oldranger wrote:Russ,
balzaccom wrote:
Don't have much of a list this year---we have what we need.

Unless someone can send me some free time? I always appreciate THAT one!


why is it semi-retired types never have free time?
Remember that nature abhors a vacuum! So our schedule fills up!

Paul,

I'd even pay for a little extra time!

Merry Christmas!

Mike
Ok.. here's some more free time. Mike, you've posted 830ish times.
Let's say that you didn't have to think much and that's 5 minutes a post..
830 posts x 5 mins per post / 60 mins/hr = ? 70ish.. That's a weekend trip right there!

In fact, we should be flattered that you spare your spare time with us.. :)

Now.. Back to the Christmas festivities..

PS: Gary, I'd go with the long neo aire as well.