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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby caddis » Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:39 am

deleted because I didn't read the previous post before this reply
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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby tim » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:40 am

This article (http://us.cnn.com/2013/10/11/politics/s ... =us&page=0) about the reopening of national parks in Utah and a few other places indicates that "California and Wyoming also have sought alternative financing solutions for their parks"

Does anyone have any more insight?
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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby maverick » Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:03 pm

Tim,

Has been already posted here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10123
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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby dave54 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:13 pm

I noticed today the Snowmobile Park at Morgan Summit (Hwy 36) is closed, barricaded and the restroom locked. Which I found interesting. It is operated by the Forest Service, but funding is 100% state Green Sticker money. Zero federal funding. All maintenance and operations is state funded with the money allocated and available.

So why closed?
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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby takotruckin » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:52 am

dave54 wrote:I noticed today the Snowmobile Park at Morgan Summit (Hwy 36) is closed, barricaded and the restroom locked. Which I found interesting. It is operated by the Forest Service, but funding is 100% state Green Sticker money. Zero federal funding. All maintenance and operations is state funded with the money allocated and available.

So why closed?


Closed because we Americans are being used as pawns in a giant stupid chess game.

We have been fortunate around here and as far as I know all of our trailheads are still open, as are the 4x4 trails.
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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby dave54 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:59 pm

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Closed because we Americans are being used as pawns in a giant stupid chess game.

We have been fortunate around here and as far as I know all of our trailheads are still open, as are the 4x4 trails.


I disagree we are pawns in a chess game.

Chess requires at least a modicum of intelligence and rational thought.
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What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby ironmike » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:24 pm

The game is far from chess. More like chicken.
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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby caddis » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:22 pm

dave54 wrote:I noticed today the Snowmobile Park at Morgan Summit (Hwy 36) is closed, barricaded and the restroom locked. Which I found interesting. It is operated by the Forest Service, but funding is 100% state Green Sticker money. Zero federal funding. All maintenance and operations is state funded with the money allocated and available.

So why closed?


Someone answered this earlier:

I'm guessing that all government contractors, including those that run campgrounds on public property, are subject to legal and financial oversight of some sort. We don't just hand over the keys to private contractors and walk away. There's a long history of fraud when that happens, which is why we have government workers removed from the profit motive. It might seem minor for campgrounds compared to a defense contractor or highway construction company, but it takes people at many levels of government to make the private-public system work correctly. We don't see those people working in the background to make things happen, but they're there. Except now, they aren't there."




We need multiple layers of government experts looking over our shoulder so that we don't commit fraud cleaning toilets, walking down trails, looking at old geysers, walking through public malls, and pulling off the side of the road to view faces carved in rocks

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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby schmalz » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:51 pm

Congress has a 5 percent approval rating. I'm pretty sure we all agree here, so what is the argument again?
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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby rlown » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:58 pm

evidently, it's about unaffordable healthcare shutting down the govt. :( And that parts of the govt should have never been shut down, other than the NSA and secret service.
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Re: What does a govt shutdown mean for access to NF and NP?

Postby maverick » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:15 pm

Some here still insist on continuing outside the scope of this OP's thread and what
this particular forum is meant for, "backpacking related" issues, it is now locked.
If you care to discuss the ramification of the lockdowns, political or economical
ramifications on the NP or NF, than please open a new thread in the "Campfire"
forum for further discussions. Thank you.
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