arlopop61 wrote:Well Mountaineer, last things first...
"By the way, where have I flamed anybody?"
Sooo... to Grzldvt you wrote,
"you are in la-la land"
First, I have to tell you I respect you sticking around and not doing a "drive-by" like the other poster.
Anyway, my "la-la" land comment was in response to the condescending post Grzvldt directed to me:
So I will take somewhat of an opposite view. I find this thread extremely disappointing. It seems there are many people here that are interested in maximizing their own personal experience without thinking about the impact to the present, the future and those coming in after us.
He fired first. Also, my bold type was only meant to make it easier to differentiate my response from the previous quote. CAPS were only used to accentuate certain points. I am not sure how you deduced that I was trying to drown out differing opinions.
In your midnight stoplight scenario most states, including california, not only permit but require the treatment of a non-functioning stoplight as a four way stop. Perhaps the better analogy is the hiker lost in the woods who, without proper equipment, is forced to survive a night in bitter cold by starting a fire in an area where fires are not permitted. Oh, wait, that would be excused as well. Hmmm... Can't think of another. How bout you take another shot?
Okay, but how long will you sit there before you determine it is not functioning? Better example: 55 speed limit where 75 is safe, do you ever go over 55?
And much like the crack dealer your, "I am out to enjoy the wilderness unencumbered by regulations", argument wouldn't hold up in court either. But you both feel as if your freedom is being curtailed by others, and in both of your respective views curtailed for no good reason.
Crack has never been legal. Building fires in the woods has not only been legal but has been part of our history and culture.
But the kicker for me is that you claim the regulations fail because they aren't followed by everyone. You wrote:
"The only people that excessive regulations affect are responsible ones. Irresponsible people don't give a crap."
and then you said,
"I won't say which ones I follow and which ones I don't but suffice it to say that I don't blindly follow every regulation just because it's there."
"I don't abide by ALL the rules"
Based on those three quotes I can only assume you do not consider yourself responsible as you are obviously unaffected by any regs. And that is the reason that the regs exist and, sadly, the all-too-infrequent enforcement thereof.
I meant "irresponsible" people don't give a crap what they do to the wilderness. I DO give a crap and as I have pointed out, I don't have to follow needless regulations and you STILL won't notice that I've been there. Irresponsible people leave a trail of evidence everywhere they go.