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Delaware North...sigh

Postby markskor » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:41 am

Delaware North owns Yosemite names... what?
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Re: Delaware North...sigh

Postby rlown » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:15 pm

Don't fret, Mark. Even the CBD lawyers are commenting. Gonna cost more than 51 mill to tell Delawhatever Northish they only run the concessions and do not own them.
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Re: Delaware North...sigh

Postby freestone » Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:16 pm

I suspect the NPS is frantically reviewing trademarking in all the NPs and filing the appropriate forms. Delaware North totally caught them sleeping at the reins.
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Re: Delaware North...sigh

Postby LMBSGV » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:28 pm

I've long hated DNC management, but now . . . (no smilie exists to properly encapsulate my feelings)

The concession contract is up for renewal in 2015. Here's hoping this causes the NPS to go with anyone but DNC. Does anyone know if there is a comment procedure on rewarding the new concession contract?
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Re: Delaware North...sigh

Postby ERIC » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:38 am

Historian Says Delaware North Company Has No Claim To Yosemite National Park Place Names

Submitted by Kurt Repanshek on December 29, 2014 - 2:00am

While the Delaware North Company maintains that it can claim place names in Yosemite National Park as part of its intellectual property with a $51 million value, a prominent historian of the national parks disagrees and hopes the National Park Service will challenge the company's belief.

The issue arose earlier this year when the National Park Service prepared a prospectus for companies interested in running concessions in Yosemite. During the process of putting the prospectus together, Delaware North notified the Park Service that it held ownership to such names as The Ahwahnee Hotel, the Wawona Hotel, Curry Village, Badger Pass, and other places in the park. Furthermore, the company said that if it lost the bidding for the 15-year contract that begins in 2016, the winning bidder would have to pay it $51 million for the right to those names.

While the Park Service has not officially recognized Delaware North's claim, it has in the prospectus left open the door for a renaming of all the places to which the claim extends if another company wins the contract.

In claiming the place names as their own, Delaware North officials point out that when they won the concessions business at Yosemite in 1993, the Park Service required the company "to buy the stock of the previous concessioner, Yosemite Park & Curry Co. (the Curry Company) at a price that was established in advance by the NPS," DNC's Yosemite spokeswoman, Lisa Cesaro, said in an email to the Traveler. "With this stock purchase, because DNC Yosemite then owned the entirety of the Curry Company, it also became the owner of all the assets of the Curry Company, both tangible and intangible, and responsible for all of the liabilities of the Curry Company, which the Curry Company had accumulated since its inception in 1899.

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Re: Delaware North...sigh

Postby rlown » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:43 am

cool article, Eric.

We all should have been lawyers as they seem to run the world.
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Postby balzaccom » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:21 pm

I can only hope that someone will do a better job of publicizing this to the nation at large...so that the entire country can weigh in. It would be nice to see DNC take the public heat for this. I imagine that most Americans would be furious.

Who knows? Someone might even get angry enough to hire the North Koreans to hack DNC's computers!
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Re: Delaware North...sigh

Postby LMBSGV » Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:42 pm

One guess/supposition I have about the NPS not commenting yet on this is Don Neubacher, the Yosemite superintendent, was previously at Point Reyes and thus in the center of the Drakes Bay Oyster farm mess. I think one of the lessons Neubacher learned from that was it's better to avoid publicly commenting on ridiculous claims until a definite decision has been made.

Nor should Delaware North ever be allowed to bid on a park contract again," said the historian.

Completely agree and I am hopeful this will mean the end of DNC in Yosemite and even SEKI.

However, I don’t want anyone hacking the DNC’s computers, at least not before February 2, since we booked our annual winter full-moon visit. :wink:
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Postby LMBSGV » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:12 am

It's the front page story in today's SF Chronicle:

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/N ... 989558.php
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Re: Delaware North...sigh

Postby balzaccom » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:43 pm

Funny enough--I got an email from DNC over the past couple of days about their services.

Here's the answer I sent them:

Your position in regards to Yosemite National Park and the legendary names that are attached to it is the worst kind of corporate greed. There are things more important than money, although your management may not understand that. But I will promise you that whether or not you win your lawsuit, the damage you have done to your image will last a long time. I won’t forget. And I won’t participate in anything that has to do with Delaware North, ever.

That may be a small amount of money. I hope to encourage many more people to do the same—maybe enough to have a negative impact on your operations to the tune of $51Million. If so, you will have not only lost your corporate ethics and integrity, you will have also lost what is clearly most important to you: money.
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Re: Delaware North...sigh

Postby sparky » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:09 pm

If they are indeed right, and shown to own the names, I really hope the NPS tells them to "F-off". I would rather see the names change than someone pay DNC 51 million for use of the names.

It is just a matter of principle.

I am sure the NPS could find more competence in camp 4 than what they get with the DNC
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Re: Delaware North...sigh

Postby LMBSGV » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:13 am

The SF Chronicle front page story prompted the following letters:

Letters to the editor, Jan. 3

The outrageous assertion by Delaware North to claim ownership of Yosemite’s place names (“Famous Yosemite names in dispute,” Jan. 2) appears to be nothing less than an act of corporate extortion, as well as a slap in the face to a public trust. Clearly, the company does not have the spirit of this revered national resource at heart.

Harvey Helfand, Albany

A bad steward

Delaware North’s outrageous claim of owning the names Yosemite Lodge and Ahwahnee reflects its approach to managing the resources of Yosemite. Since they took over the concession, we have seen quality of lodging, food and service deteriorate as prices have risen. It views Yosemite as a corporate cash cow and now wants to milk the National Park Service (and all of us citizens) in their attempt to hold their contract.

John Becker, Belmont

Why stop there?

Praises to Delaware North for employing the disruption model applauded by so many contemporary hustlers. Does anyone really own names derived from Native Americans? Surely not the Ahwahneechee who lived in the valley for 4,000 years. They never secured a concession contract. I can’t wait for the day when a large Jumbotron screen hangs down over Half AT&T Dome and proclaims: “This Walmart inspirational moment brought you by Delaware North in conjunction with Bud Light.” Chief Tenaya would surely rejoice if he were here today.

Mark Allendorf, San Mateo
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