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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby Hobbes » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:18 pm

WD, I think we're talking about two different classes of PCT hiker and the concomitant trends in each respective category.

Anecdotal examples suggest something in the range of a 50% success rate for the PCT. Younger, 'trail athletes' & older, boomer thru-hikers, both of whom use re-supply points to break up the trek into more manageable pieces, are certainly to be admired.

In case you haven't noticed, I'm the one who has been posting links to Carrot's blog. Here's a photo of what I consider an incredibly fit 'trail athlete' (ironically, off trail):

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However, is the growth in the number of permits being issued each year being driven by interest from these groups, or from other, less serious participants who may have different motives & expectations? I think that's the orientation on this thread of any criticism being leveled towards the "rolling party". Here's an excerpt from another blog:

Because I’m a PCT vet, it’s very important to remain casual about these things. So I help myself to a modest portion.

Meanwhile, one of the guys who’s been there for a fvcking week decides to chime in about my taco salad etiquette. He turns to me with his beady stoner eyes and says that I have to put my plate over the table or else I’ll get it all over the driveway. But I wasn’t, my plate was modest.

So let’s throw the I’m -a-casual – vet **** out the door because I’m feeling very cantankerous. I pause for a moment to think about what I’m going to say to this guy; this guy who’s been mooching off the taco salad for a fvcking week.


http://asthetrailturns.wordpress.com/

For those interested in reading further tales of disenchantment and push-back from the support community, here's a note from the water report:

The Scissors Crossing cache will no longer be maintained starting 4/28/14.

Here is a note from Trail Angel Larry: "Scissor's Crossing creek has been dry for 4 years. The water cache under the bridge is again at HIGH RISK! Six bags of trash, about 90% of which is made up of empty beer/soda cans, wine bottles, HAVE BEEN REMOVED. This total was amassed by so called hikers and associated 'camp followers' in less than FIVE DAYS. Locals in my nearby community have reported sightings of backpackers actually hitching from Julian while carrying packages of beer. This note should be considered... notice that Scissor's Angel Larry will no longer provide water beyond AZD weekend.

On Monday, all wooden containers which house up to 90 gallons of water will be removed. Hikers can then access water from Julian, 12 miles off trail, or from a campground 4 miles south of Scissor's on highway S-2.

Far more than a 'mere few' have contributed to this mess, ruining a formerly clean & well located cache. Maintaining the cache year around has been mostly a genuine pleasure. This soon to be 'former' angel never intended for an ugly trashed out scene to result.

The truly resourceful trail hikers will find a way to carry forward on their journey of discovery. Carry on, and keep safe out there."


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... 2VXc&gid=0



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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby Wandering Daisy » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:17 pm

Yes, Julian - that is very near the start of the PCT. That poor trail angel has to deal with all the wana-be's. There are bad apples in any group. It is interesting if you read the trail journals. Many start out with a bang and then just wither away.
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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby rlown » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:04 pm

I wonder what Hetchy would think.. and, why would a movie change what "we" do?

It's just a movie, people.
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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby AlmostThere » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:18 pm

It won't change what we do. In fact, if anything, it's going to deter people. So far as I remember she was miserable during the actual hiking - and Reese Witherspoon thinks carrying a 40 lb pack was the hardest thing she's ever done?

Yeah, that backpacking stuff - hard as h*11. Yeah, I do it some. I'm tuff.
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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby Cross Country » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:26 pm

When I went backpacking I went to soak up the ambiance. That's why I took up fishing. I only "bagged" one peak - Observation with Mike. We had almost nothing else to do and didn't want to leave a fantastic place like Dumbbell Lakes basin. We needed to stay there one and a half days. When the fishing is REALLY good like it was there in 1992 I don't have much to do. I caught fish to eat. Often to throw fish back damages them.
This being said, I never hike the JMT (not my thing) and the thought of hiking the PCT makes me think of REALLY hard work and almost no pleasure of enjoying the Sierra. I won't be watching the movie.
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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby sekihiker » Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:05 pm

Don't worry about the movie "Wild" causing congestion on any trails. If anything, it might have the opposite affect. The movie was pretty true to the book, a woman wallowing in such self-pity that it leads her to several years of self-destructive behavior. The trail scenes were not what I would call spectacular or inviting.
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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby Vaca Russ » Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:36 am

We saw this movie last night. I didn’t read the book (reading is HARD) but apparently the movie does not follow the book. In the movie she starts out in the desert and hikes 100 miles to Kennedy Meadows. Once there she learns the trail is impassable at elevation (due to record snow levels) and many hikers are boarding busses to travel north to lower elevations to complete the trail.

Correct me if I’m wrong but one second she is in Kennedy Meadows and the next second she is getting off of a bus in Reno. The movie basically skips most of the Sierra (the best parts). She then hikes north to the Bridge of the Gods on the Columbia.

I assume they skipped the High Sierra backcountry because of all of the logistical problems with filming.

This film is NOT about the PCT. Don’t worry about it being glamourized to the extent many other newbies will join the hike. The film follows a traumatized, confused young woman who is struggling with many issues (primarily the untimely death of her Mother, played by Laura Dern). The PCT is only a minor character.

All in all it is a pretty good film. Witherspoon is too much of a “girl next door” type to pull off the “heroin skank” character, but it kinda works. There is also a scene with a filthy dirty hippy singing “Box of Rain” so… it is a decent film.

JMHO,

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BTW, this is a good review:

sekihiker wrote:Don't worry about the movie "Wild" causing congestion on any trails. If anything, it might have the opposite affect. The movie was pretty true to the book, a woman wallowing in such self-pity that it leads her to several years of self-destructive behavior. The trail scenes were not what I would call spectacular or inviting.
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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby balzaccom » Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:16 am

AlmostThere wrote:It won't change what we do. In fact, if anything, it's going to deter people. So far as I remember she was miserable during the actual hiking - and Reese Witherspoon thinks carrying a 40 lb pack was the hardest thing she's ever done?

Yeah, that backpacking stuff - hard as h*11. Yeah, I do it some. I'm tuff.
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To be fair, Witherspoon is a hair over five feet tall and probably weighs around 105...I don't think many of us carry 40% of our body weight. I know I couldn't carry a 75 pound pack very far--nor would I want to.

Haven't seen the movie, haven't read the book. But there is no reason we shouldn't let Hollywood HIOH just like everyone else. And if they made a movie about one of my hikes, nobody would go to see it: no car chases, no gunshots, no emotional meltdowns, no bad guys.

Just a lot of smiles and stunning scenery.
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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby AlmostThere » Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:23 am

Vaca Russ wrote:We saw this movie last night. I didn’t read the book (reading is HARD) but apparently the movie does not follow the book. In the movie she starts out in the desert and hikes 100 miles to Kennedy Meadows. Once there she learns the trail is impassable at elevation (due to record snow levels) and many hikers are boarding busses to travel north to lower elevations to complete the trail.



Sounds like it did follow the book. That's pretty much what she did.
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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby SSSdave » Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:12 pm

Week ago watched movie at our local cheap theatre for $5.50. I read a lot of non-fiction books especially science though little about people or culture. So did not read this book nor would be interested after reading movie reviews and especially after watching this movie. Low interest in spending time on the many people of this era with poor self control and emotional issues. Enough of that over decades with some of my own relatives, their associates, and acquaintences. Film will do little for thru hiking much less backpacking because as AlmostThere noted those scenes in the movie did not amount to much more than a setting for all her flashbacks and mulling over her problems. And for that reason scenery was not inspiring being mostly in Desert and then Great Basin sage brush with nothing of value in the Sierra.

I also very much get the relationship between someone with problems solo on a long backpacking trail and how that can be a vehicle to introspective self awareness. Without all the usual life distractions, solo hiking gives a person lots of time to think.

This recent era's explosion of the Internet will have far more affect on our sport than that film. That is especially the case for younger generation blog readers of those who hike the thru trails and then see themselves doing same. In any case there will certainly be some newbies who dabble into our sport after watching the movie. Some may start out as thru hikers and wake up to the magnificence of the high country and switch gears to where many of us our.

Generally I don't have an opinion or attitude about young thru hikers though am aware of that culture. Nor have I met many in wilderness areas as I simply spend little time along the big trails and if I do am quick to camp well away from.

Reese Witherspoon did an excellent job portraying the character, pulling it off in difficult field conditions. Despite the above was a worthwhile watch because I want to see how big media film makers portray our outdoor sport that is rather small in the public's eyes. And hope the movie is financially successful which may inspire film makers to not shy away from movies set in our outdoor lands. What would have most impact is if one of we enthusiasts as a discrete no-fee guide actually brought Miss Witherspoon and her husband on a real trip, something short to somewhere inspiring in the High Sierra and then they actually had an enjoyable time. The popular media would blabber all over something like that.

So Miss W go ahead and email me.
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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby rlown » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:59 am

More fuel to the fire: http://news.yahoo.com/wild-author-stray ... 10493.html

CORVALLIS, Ore. (AP) — Nearly 2,000 people thronged an Oregon college auditorium for an appearance by the author of "Wild," hours after a movie based on the best-selling memoir about a thousand-mile hike earned two Oscar nominations.

Cheryl Strayed wrote the book about her walk along the Pacific Crest Trail in 1995 and described it Thursday to an overflow audience at Oregon State University.

It was the largest crowd at the university's LaSells Stewart Center for such an event, college official Shelly Signs said. Hundreds watched on monitors in the lobby and another auditorium, the Corvallis Gazette-Times reported (http://bit.ly/1yr4phK ).

Oscar nominations were announced earlier in the day: Reese Witherspoon was named for her performance as Strayed, and Laura Dern for hers as Strayed's mother.

"How could this even be possible? It makes me want to cry," Strayed said. "It's astounding to me that one day people playing me and my mom would be nominated for an Oscar."

The book describes how Strayed reacted to her mother's death from lung cancer, and how she walked her way out of a dark time that included adultery and heroin use.

"When she died, I didn't know how to live," Strayed said. "In my sorrow I lost my way. I got married; I did a lot of things married people shouldn't do. ... Well, I did a lot of things single people shouldn't do, except in moderation."

Looking for a way out of her mental state, she hiked the California and Oregon segments of the trail that runs along the mountainous spine of the West Coast from Mexico to Canada.

The university audience cheered and clapped for Strayed's stories and asked questions about mother-daughter relations, her approach to writing and her work as an advice columnist, the Corvallis Gazette-Times reported (http://bit.ly/1yr4phK).

Strayed began writing "Wild" in 2008.

As the book was being prepared for publication, in 2012, Strayed sent a copy to Witherspoon, who bought the rights before it hit the shelves.

Six weeks after release, the film has taken in $30 million.

Strayed had a small part, as a pickup truck driver who drops off Witherspoon at the starting point of her hike.

And she had a line: "Good luck."
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Re: Think the new movie "Wild" will have any impact?

Postby sekihiker » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:01 pm

Oh brother! I might have made the wrong guess about the impact of Wild. Check out this link.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/adventu ... ailsignout
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