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Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby Rockchucker » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:07 am

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I got cut on some metal yesterday at work pretty bad , hit a artery and was
Quite the mess, squirting blood everywhere. I got to the emergency room and they had to do quite a bit of work to get the bleeding stopped. While sitting in the emergency room I got to thinking what would I have done in the back country had something like this happened. I'm sure I could get the blood stopped, but the hematoma and pain rendered my hand useless. I can't do anything with the hand this morning. I was thinking how difficult it would be just to pack up camp.

What is your contingency plan in the event something like this happens? I can't even button my pants rather alone take down a tent.
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby maverick » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:03 am

Here are some previous threads that touch on this subject, hope you heel up quickly!
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7782&hilit=injury
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5984&hilit=first+aid
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby rlown » Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:32 pm

Nice. Sounds like a CAL-OSHA investigation.

I don't do solo anymore, so I expect my partner or partners to help arrest the "leakage", then stabilize, and then go for help. If' i'm with someone with a SPOT, that'd be the time to press the button, esp, with an artery leaking.
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby sparky » Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:51 pm

Never say never. We can do just about damn near anything when it come to survival. Well, most can.....some people just seem to give up but I think they are a minority.

When you get in those situations, you come up with a plan, then execute the plan. Easy :evil:

I am a commercial/industrial electrician. Safety is a big part of my job. I am always completely suited up in the proper safety gear for what I am doing. I am grateful for cal-osha, but 10% of the time they are just over the top and are making most suffer because of the lowest common denominators.

Like they say **** happens, and I am not the type of person to look for someone to blame. That is one thing about our society I dislike. always trying to hold people accountable for accidents. Accidents are not black and white issues, period.

I don't like the idea of creating a perfectly safe environment. I have read Brave New World :eek: No but there is a trade off between fairness, safety, and/or security; and freedom. It is all about being sensible while still allowing us to learn the hard way. Sorry getting off of the topic here.

That got you pretty damn good. I hope it heals up quick....as if you are like me, our hands are our money makers.

Oh also...superglue makes a fine set of stitches. I have seen it work like a charm many times. Maybe it is a good idea to put a small bottle in your first aid kit.
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby rlown » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:01 pm

after you get the artery to stop leaking, i agree totally with the superglue. She's still gotta be wrapped tight. then loose and then tight.

RC, do you think you could have hiked out after you took that kind of artery hit?

btw, my uncle was also an electrician. In Montana, he fell off a perch and lost 3 fingers to metal.
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby Rockchucker » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:07 pm

I do carry superglue in my FAK. It was a stupid mistake(as most are), I just took off my gloves to take a drink of water, then didn't put the gloves back on. Even worse was I just got done telling the labor to be careful because the sharp nails and metal corner bead can cut you pretty good, and how I would rather be safe than sorry. I really feel stupid, but I take it as a lesson to always wear gloves when demoing.
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby Rockchucker » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:15 pm

rlown wrote:after you get the artery to stop leaking, i agree totally with the superglue. She's still gotta be wrapped tight. then loose and then tight.

RC, do you think you could have hiked out after you took that kind of artery hit?

btw, my uncle was also an electrician. In Montana, he fell off a perch and lost 3 fingers to metal.

I could walk easily, but I'm afraid getting the heart rate up would have aggravated the swelling and internal bleeding. I would have to go slow and keep my hand elevated above my heart.
To be honest it was a bit concerning watching blood squirting out so fast. Even being close to the hospital it took the doctor a good half hour to get it under control. I completely soaked three of the blue matts that they use to keep the beds clean. The other concern was the clotting, they had to pull the wound open and clear it out, funny little cut and 3 people trying to work on it!
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby Wandering Daisy » Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:36 pm

Just curious. Are you on any blood thinners. Did you take any aspirin within the previous few days? Any meds that have a side effect of bleeding? My husband is on blood thinners and this really worries me when we are backpacking.
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby RoguePhotonic » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:37 pm

Yes hand injuries suck in the backcountry. In 2012 when I sliced my finger badly I didn't even try to set up a tent. Just rolling up my pad was a major pain. You just learn to do the best you can.

Sort of the same deal this year when I damaged my finger on Kaweah Pass. It was swollen badly for days and it just made everything difficult. Hell that was over 4 months ago and that finger is still not 100%. Maybe it never will be again.
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby rlown » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:51 pm

Well, RC, from your signature:

I'm no suture for my future.


Now you are!!
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby Rockchucker » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:34 pm

rlown wrote:Well, RC, from your signature:

I'm no suture for my future.


Now you are!!

Ha that's great, didn't even think about that! Thanks for the chuckle, Russ.

Wandering Daisy wrote:Just curious. Are you on any blood thinners. Did you take any aspirin within the previous few days? Any meds that have a side effect of bleeding? My husband is on blood thinners and this really worries me when we are backpacking.

I was taking Advil because of a back injury.
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Re: Bad cut (kind of graphic)

Postby hikerduane » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:33 pm

Bad spot there on the hand. Get better for some mc riding dude. People always worry about my solo trips. Good stuff happens! Only bad thing that happened to me was at home, drove myself to the ER with my hand over my face.
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