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Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby lanceduffy » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:36 pm

Sorry for the tedious requirements but those are the ones I am facing. I need a loop hike, preferably 150 miles or less from Chico CA that will have very little snow on it. Total trail length, 25-35 miles suitable to beginner and intermediate backpackers. Thanks for your time!



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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby maverick » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:52 am

Hi Lanceduffy

Welcome to HST!
You did not indicate when you wanted to go on this trip, which is a big factor, especially
this year.
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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby lanceduffy » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:01 am

Sorry, mid May.
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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby maverick » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:08 am

Way to early! Trinity, Marbles, Russian Wilderness will be blanketed with snow into
July.
Even if it was not a big snow year, May would still be to early.
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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby AlmostThere » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:30 am

I know you said, but NO SNOW is going to mean the coast.

Henry Coe if you are willing to tolerate steep hills. Point Reyes if you want short days and very scenic hiking, tho permits will be a bit of a struggle. And Skyline to Sea should be opening the trail camps in May, it's about 30 miles one way, with a couple of cars you can place one at Castle Rock and another at Waddell, and have a great beginner backpack. You'll want to call the info line as posted on the internet to reserve campsites and determine parking/camping fees for your group. Ohlone will be like Coe, steep inclines, but good in spring for wildflowers. All of these are central coast, SF area, and great for beginners.

I just did a Coe overnight - saw a gray fox, white tail kites, lots and lots of waterfowl and tons of flowers. Plan out the camps fairly close together and the hills will be less arduous. You can make a decent loop from Hunting Hollow with less elevation gain if you are good at eyeballing a map - going out Grizzly Gulch trail is a gradual up and out, and you can return over Lyman Willson and down Hunting Hollow on the way back to the car. The final creek wade is quite refreshing.
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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby dave54 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:11 pm

Your backyard. Ishi.

Shorter than your specs @ 20 miles, & an out & back, is the Yana trail between Redding & Red Bluff.
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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby lanceduffy » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:01 pm

Thanks for the information. Since the trip is happening in May and I want as little snow as possible, it makes sense that the coast would be where its at.

Point Reyes is looking good. Anything else in that area or closer to Chico?

I wish the ishi wilderness would work but it will not.
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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby Ikan Mas » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:20 am

A few shots from the Ohlone Wilderness, taken May 7 and 8, 2010. Things should be about the same there now, only probably wetter. We camped near the top of Mt. Rosa and it was chilly at that altitude for the Bay area. No snow though.

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Lake Del Valle in the distance.
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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby lanceduffy » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:56 pm

Thanks again for everyone's help. I am seriously considering Ohlone. I called the park today, they could not tell me the milage for the wilderness trail. I am looking for that info and wondering if there are any print (outside of quads and their zoomable map) and web resources that will help me research the area. Thanks!
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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby AlmostThere » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:10 am

The zoomable map is the one they give you as a permit. I haven't seen any other map.

The trail from mission peak to del valle is about 30 miles one way. That doesn't include any side trips you do. Sometimes people do the trail from Sunol instead, parking is not safe on the Fremont end. Most people do it from Del Valle to Mission, which is actually easier on the feet - the Big Burn is much, much better up than down. I went down. Toe bang, smash and crash... did not help that it was muddy and slippery.
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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby Wandering Daisy » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:00 am

The Bay Area is crowded and getting permits for weekends can be difficult. Henry Coe is technically NOT a "coast" area and I think it is more than 150 miles from Chico. I personally think Henry Coe is great. Point Reyes is really good for beginners and has numerous good loops, but is hard to get permits. Have you thought about trails that go up the Yuba River. I have not personally done a lot on these, but the few miles I did, the trails seemed to be well maintained. You may not be able to do a loop but with a group, you could park a car at each end. There is also the Western States trial on the American River. I have just day hiked sections and again, it would be a one-way with parking cars on each end. Feather Falls area - although I heard the bridge washed out.
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Re: Help, 30 mile loop, no snow, nor cal, not on the coast?

Postby lanceduffy » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:26 am

From what I've read it seems like I can only camp in two spots in Ohlone. This won't work for me. This intro backpacking is teaching intensive with low daily mileage.

The Yuba is interesting. I am not familiar with any trails in that area but that may be because I have not thought to look.

To address peoples weekend permit concerns, this will be a mid week trip. Thanks again for all the help!
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