High Sierra Topix

Not being a technical climber, I was wondering how HSTers would check in on this: A legitimate challenge or recklessness being up there in this weather?

My comment is it would depend on the experience of the group.

It appears that they have the background to be on Mt. Hood this time of year, although I did see one article that could put some question marks after that.

Pushing the envelope. I had a Comm. College Backpacking and Survival instructor answer a students question about what he would do in a storm. He said he wouldn't be in it. Meaning, if he knew a storm was coming in he would not go. The student kept saying, yes but what would you do. Same answer. Last year a group of 8 of us from another forum went out snow camping in Dec. expecting some snow and received 2' overnight and very high winds. We felt we were properly equipped and knowledgeable (sp?)enough to survive. We did fine but had some issues with some shelters but made good decisions. It all adds to your experience so you are better prepared next time. All within reason.

Strider wrote:Not being a technical climber, I was wondering how HSTers would check in on this: A legitimate challenge or recklessness being up there in this weather?

I doubt we'll have the right information to form a conclusion until they are off the mountain. In the mean time, it seems they took a risk with the weather and something happened that prevented them from getting out of there before all hell broke loose.

http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ub ... /0/fpart/1

PS. Hey Strider, I'm in PR too (behind Arciero) - how long have you been in town?

Very interesting link, Shawn; thanks for posting it. What I found interesting in reading many of the posts is that I don't remember one that seemed to be critical of the climbers. In fact, a number of them came up with suggestions about where the climbers might be, a few seemed to be part of the Mt. Hood SAR, and quite a few have volunteered to help in the search.

I agree with hikerduane that being in inclimate conditions prepares you to deal with these types of situations, particularly when your life may be on the line. That being said, I have my own views on heading out with minimal equipment in the face of an oncoming storm, and putting not only yourself at risk but SAR personnel as well. But I'm not a climber. Based on the posts on the Cascade climbing forum, it is my impression that the people who climb in this area, and that includes the SAR personnel, seem to understand the risks and are probably not averse to going out in similar situations. In that case, I think it is up to their community to decide if this was reckless or just the nature of climbing on Mt. Hood and an accepted part of the experience.

Very sad to hear that one body was found. I am not aclimber, but I read a lot about Mount Hood and how treacherous it can get. Hope is fading for the other two climbers.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,237101,00.html

I have followed the news over on TT and watched the topic go off a little. I think from reading info there that the climbers may not have had enough food, it wasn't that cold if you got into a snow cave. Haven't heard yet how the one guy died. The others lost over a cliff?

Jerry Cooke's photo page from Summit Post.

http://www.summitpost.org/user_page.php?user_id=21223