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Re: Tuolumne Ski Tour- Trip Report

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:13 pm
by overheadx2
Harlen, I like the idea of kicker skins on less steep tours. Do you have suggestions on which ones you like? How steep of an incline can you do with kickers vs full length?

Re: Tuolumne Ski Tour- Trip Report

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:48 am
by DAVELA
Another great winter report.

Re: Tuolumne Ski Tour- Trip Report

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:45 am
by Harlen
overheadx2 writes:
I like the idea of kicker skins on less steep tours. Do you have suggestions on which ones you like? How steep of an incline can you do with kickers vs full length?
I have the older purple, black diamond climbing skins- both "kicker skins" and full length, and a newer set, also BD skins, but in a more or less black and white color. The new skins are wider than the old purples, and seem to have a slightly shorter "fur." Both worked well on the last trip, but I learned it is very important to put them onto dry ski bottoms. Another tip comes from Rob Pilewski, the TM winter ranger; he advises to place the kicker skins high up on the ski when you mostly need more glide, and less grip- easy, rolling terrain, or on a flat, icy surface, and place them in the normal way- in the middle of the ski, for climbing. I think this assumes that you have waxless skis, but it could work with smooth skis too.
I could have used this knowledge a few years ago when I was skiing down an icy Lyell Canyon for miles and miles under a full moon. It was just a bit too slippery without the skins, and painfully slow with them on.
How steep of an incline can you do with kickers vs full length?
Hard to quantify that, it depends on the surface, but for sure, edge to edge full skins are right for real climbing. I'm more of a snow traveler than an up and downhill charger type; you could get better insight from the sites like "Teletips," et al.
Hey Davela, we should get out there!

Re: Tuolumne Ski Tour- Trip Report

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:23 pm
by wsp_scott
Looks like an awesome trip, Great photos