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Re: Hiking in March

Postby sparky » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:49 pm

Hiking in the foothills is your best bet. Even then I come prepared for winter. Find some cool sequoia groves, get some views of the high country covered in snow.

Or just go hit the desert. There is so much great stuff out in the desert there is no reason to go to the Sierra unless you are going there specifically for the challenge of winter.

Or just dayhike the valley.
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Re: Hiking in March

Postby coff20 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:46 pm

SSSdave, he's not a fisherman but yeah he does kind of have that idealistic vision of the mountains. Like I said I've been meaning to head to sespe and was planning on using that as a backup plan, but all things considered now that's probably what we'll plan on doing. Sespe isn't really exactly what he's looking for either, but because of it's convenience he's alright with going there. And if that doesn't work out for whatever reason, I'll just have to try and convince him to give the desert a shot. Thanks guys.
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Re: Hiking in March

Postby HiSierra » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:21 am

Hetch Hetchy back to Rancheria Falls seems to fit your criteria. You can keep going beyond the falls to make it longer. It not the High Sierra but it has the feel of the high mountains at a lower elevation. Side trip to Yosemite Valley another possible add-on.

http://www.yosemitehikes.com/hetch-hetc ... -falls.htm
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Re: Hiking in March

Postby Big Ed » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:36 pm

I do Fall, Winter, and Spring backpacking trips in the Sierra East of Fresno. It's in the lower elevations, 1,100' to 4,500'. I don't see others doing it, I think it's mostly thought of as a summer activity. I think if you look around, you can find places to go. Try hiking trails, old roads, or seasonal closure roads.
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Re: Hiking in March

Postby mort » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:20 pm

Hi coff20,
I think most southern east side will be accessible, very little snow at Horseshoe meadow, and Kearsarge.
Or you could do what I do, most years. Check out Mt. San Jacinto. Take the Palms Springs tramway and then many miles of fine trails.
http://pstramway.com/long-valley-cam.html
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Re: Hiking in March

Postby coff20 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:29 pm

HiSierra, that sounds like a good trip, but it's just too far.

Big Ed, thanks I will take a look at some maps of that area.

Thanks Mort, I was wondering how much snow was up around horseshoe. I'll take a look at Mt. San Jacinto that look interesting.

I really appreciate the responses guys. Being able to plan ahead and go over options for trips like this really helps me stay sane while I work through all my classes. I'm definitely looking forward to spring break and a break from organic chemistry!
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Re: Hiking in March

Postby SPeacock » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:15 pm

'Normally' around Father's Day (mid-ish June), the road to Horseshoe Meadows is plowed and first trail covering snow is around 11,000'. Possible berms of snow across the trail at times but the lower Cottonwood Lakes (including Muir) are snow free. This was the family's (with single digit kids) opening trip for the season. We got a very heavy snow one year and baled at 8PM so we wouldn't be stranded. By end of July most passes would be well traveled.

Looks like 2015 will be an abnormally low snow year. Just check in with the Rangers in Bishop as to when when the roads are plowed. It can be well below freezing at least at night at 10,000' in April/May/June. Plan on it. It was 19F in August on the west side of Shepherd Pass.

Most trail heads on the east side (from US-395) start above 9,500'. Horseshoe Meadows, the highest, is around 10,500' and about a 6 mile walk in to the first lake.

A favorite day hike in early May is towards Bishop Pass from South Lake out of Bishop. Again check on plowing of the roads. It can be a pleasant enough snow back pack, as usually there is snow above Long Lake, but the scenery is awesome and the snow is firm and consolidated -- "Sierra Cement".

My favorite of all early Spring day hikes is as far as I can get on Shepherd Pass trail (Symmes Creek) just a few miles south of the road going up to Onion Valley. Trail head is at around 6,000' and a fairly good workout up to a ridge. That then lets you descend 500' toward a raging Shepherd Creek - which you never quite get to. The views are spectacular with spring melt coming from waaay up high on your left (going up hill) and waterfalls near first water after you regain the 500' lost from the ridge. From there it just keeps better as you get to the first camping available at Mahogany Flats and then an expansive switch back that takes you over a head wall (and waterfall) up to Anvil Camp. You watch two 14r's (Williamson/Tyndall) do a slow strip tease as you get closer to them. In the summer this is the "express" to the high Sierra and can be connected to a lovely loop at Kearsarge Pass and Onion Valley.

A fun long weekend with friends is to stay in Bishop or Lone Pine and day hike Cottonwood Lakes, Kearsarge Lakes, Big Pine Lakes, Bishop Pass, etc coming back late each evening for a nice bath, meal, and bed. Or not be a wimp and stay in one of the campgrounds in the area. This will give you a 50 mile swatch of what the Sierra provides for the first night out on a back pack (about 6 miles in) that will the next day take you over a pass into a National Park.

If you are in the Sierra in the summer, be sure that you have 200 (or equivalent) fleece and rain protection handy. August will still dump 3" of hail and a couple of inches of rain on you in an hour.

It is not too late to start getting fit for long hikes at higher altitude than you might be used to. Rule of thumb is that after slow jogging for 20 minutes you should be able to carry on a continuing conversation with your training buddy.

Take a look at http://exrx.net/Beginning.html, jog/walk program.

Have fun out there, just be ready for it.
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Re: Hiking in March

Postby maverick » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:39 pm

SPeacock wrote:

Most trail heads on the east side (from US-395) start above 9,500'. Horseshoe Meadows, the highest, is around 10,500' and about a 6 mile walk in to the first lake.


Correction: Horseshoe Meadows is at 9960 ft, New Cottonwood Lakes is at 10000 ft, but Mosquito Flats is
at 10272 and is the highest trailhead in the Sierra.
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Re: Hiking in March

Postby SPeacock » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:10 pm

Ahhh, thanks for that. I meant Cottonwood Lakes trail head but still off by 500'.

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=36.45405,-118.16543&z=15&t=T

Topo indicates around 10,040+ (top end of high parking lot), but different maps have the new route starting at different places...or not at all. One link says 10,040 and a paragraph later says 10,090'.

10,000' is fine. Have no idea where that stat came from. It has been rolling around in my head wrong for a very long time.

It never occurred to me that the trail didn't seem like a 500' gain to the lakes. I just figured the extra effort was because of the first day at altitude. :unibrow:
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Re: Hiking in March

Postby coff20 » Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:25 pm

SPeacock,

Thanks for the reply, but this information might be more useful for the other guy who posted about wanting to do a march trip. Like I said earlier in the thread, among other sierra trips in the last two years I went over pine creek and sawmill passes and I grew up camping and hiking all over the place pretty much year round. I run three days a week and I've been going for an 8-15 mile day hike every weekend since the winter has been so mild up here in Eastern Oregon where I go to school, so staying fit isn't an issue. I was more just wondering what conditions would be like in the southern sierra given the nature of this winter. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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