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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby caveman » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:08 pm

I have received a response from Alan, the one who backpacked with him in May 2011. Alan informed me that he talked to Larry about Gardiner Basin at one point, but not Amphitheater. Attached are two pictures of Larry in that snowy May 2011 trip. Again, keep in mind these pictures we're taken a year and a half ago. Following is Alan's response:

"Checking my pictures for that trip, these are the only two that show what gear Larry wore when we hiked in the snow.

My two cents is that Larry most definitely brought the right gear for inclement weather. He's been caught in snowy conditions many times in the Sierras, so I'm pretty sure he took the right clothes that would keep him dry and warm in inclement weather. There were many trips where he talked about having to do a lot of postholing. To me, that would mean that he at least had gaters and, hopefully, water resistant pants. Oh, and extra pillows. He was one to bring pillows to fill out his backpack and help with lumbar support.

I'm also sure that he probably did not bring a stove with him. At the Kennedy Meadows trip, I was a little surprised when he said that a stove was too much of a hassle to take on a trip. But I think he would have been smart enough to at least bring matches in an event of an emergency. And he does bring extra food."
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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby maverick » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:18 pm

-Thanks for the info and photo's Caveman!

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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby sierraholic » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:43 pm

Don't give up hope yet! The other missing hiker on the western Sierra was found.

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/10/29/494726 ... ierra.html

Thoughts and prayers for Larry and all the searchers!
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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby lostcoyote » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:03 pm

thegib wrote:Given the last thing he said was "explore Pinchot pass" I say day one: east side of Taboose. Day two follow JMT to Pinchot pass, then follow the ridge till it connects with the N ridge of Crater Mtn. Bag Crater if you've time, then descend to the lake at 3460m+ (headwaters of White fork). Day three, bag Ickes then cross over to the NW at 3740m+ and descend to as close to Bench as you can get. Day four out. That's a great little route.


i'll put your idea into a picture map. i believe john dittli also suggested this as a possibility yesterday. (route illustrated in blue)

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also note that white fork basin is JUST OUTSIDE the search area (south of the red line i drew on the map above) illustrated a few days ago:

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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby SEKI Public Affairs » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:05 pm

The following information was posted on Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks’ website at http://www.nps.gov/seki/parknews/newsreleases.htm today:

- news release

(If you do not see the entry for Oct. 29 on the webpage, click on the "Refresh" button once or twice and it should come up.)
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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby John Dittli » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:39 pm

lostcoyote wrote:
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also note that white fork basin is JUST OUTSIDE the search area (south of the red line i drew on the map above) illustrated a few days ago:

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Yes, that's the route.

Actually I just looked over my notes: I descended the pass into Marjorie Lake, northwest of the marked route. The other pass "goes" as well though steeper.
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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby rlown » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:09 pm

as long as we're in speculation mode, I would have put Larry in the green area with a look over the edge. If he was moving slow on the way in, losing elevation to Bench would be problematic for the trip out.

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funny thing here is we're not Larry. It all depends on what was interesting to him and if he base camped or not. Seki SAR has ample resources on the ground and are hitting all the right areas supposedly.. I hope they beat the storm.
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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby DoyleWDonehoo » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:46 pm

rlown wrote:as long as we're in speculation mode, I would have put Larry in the green area with a look over the edge.

Yeah, I would think the green area lakes and the lakes to the north would be worthwhile to check. Ruling out the exposed areas would be the easiest to check off. If his tent was up and found, that would be a huge break. The fact that it was not is unfortunate.
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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby frediver » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:41 am

Just curious how searches are preformed: Are spotters used, IE. pack in a x60+ spotting scope, picking a
point and still hunting, perhaps directing ground searchers to areas a visual "scope" search can not cover?
Not sure that it would make any difference but even my video camera will give me 800x mag as long as I have a battery in it. Hi mag will allow you to view into many brush covered areas.
Using a spotter at this stage might require more personal and time than you will have available.
I hope everyone in the ground search will have a signal panel and mirror as back-up to technology.
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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby freestone » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:37 am

funny thing here is we're not Larry


It would be helpful to know from those who have backpacked with Larry on how true he stays with his Wilderness Permit itinerary. To the letter, or just uses it as a framework, then tends to wander?


Will SEKI disclose the permit to our searchers?

He may have gone over Pinchot pass, then tried doing a loop to visit the large nameless lake east of Mount Pinchot. That lake could have piqued his curiosity because of it's remoteness.
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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby lostcoyote » Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:07 am

rlown wrote:as long as we're in speculation mode, I would have put Larry in the green area with a look over the edge.


i marked those areas on my first map back on pahe 11 or 12. SEKI came back a day later and said that they had already checked that area (the ones marked in green)

this route caught my attention because it lies outside the search area (at least what SEKI had posted on their macp back on saturday.

but yeah, you are right, we are not larry and all we can do is speculate.
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Re: Overdue Hiker - Do You Have Any Info?

Postby RoguePhotonic » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:50 am

They haven't searched those lakes noted in green? Based on what he said about where he was going that would have been the first place I would have searched.
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