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Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby MountainMinstrel » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:11 pm

A couple and their dog have been missing since Tuesday in the Crabtree area.

http://www.mymotherlode.com/news/local/ ... crest.html
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby maverick » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:56 pm

Posted on the other major CA outdoor forums. Hope they are found safe and sound.
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby maverick » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:22 pm

Talked to Sheriff's Dept, they says that Donna, Mark, and Lulu (dog) went out Sunday and were planning to come back Tuesday.

Their intended route was to go in at Crabtree>Gem Lake>Deer Lake>Long Lake>Crabtree

If you were out between 6/12-6/14 and saw a couple with a dog anywhere along this stretch of trail, please contact the Sheriff’s Office immediately at 209-533-5815.

Thank you for any information you can provide!
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby MountainMinstrel » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:19 pm

They have been found.

http://www.kcra.com/news/local-news/new ... y/40106284

They apparently found someone with a working phone and called in.
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby maverick » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:50 pm

Another good outcome. :)
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby ryanerb » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:57 pm

Awesome they were found!

Would love to hear feedback about how this keeps happening and so many people don't have any satellite comm devices such as a spot or PLB. This would greatly speed things up for everyone and free up time, money and resources.
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby SSSdave » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:59 pm

snippets from news link:

Campers first ran into Hallberg and Smallwood on a trail near Cleo's Bath, which is in the Pinecrest area...

The sheriff's office said Friday Hallberg and Smallwood ended up hiking 60 miles. Their hike plans were diverted Tuesday because of the terrain and a large amount of snow. The pair used their map to try to find different routes.

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The only way anyone going to Gem Lake from Crabtree TH could end up at Cleo's Bath that is 1.5 miles up the river from Pinecrest Lake, is if they were incompetent map readers. I wonder how they managed to get into the Stanislaus River Canyon? Dodge Ridge and forest service dirt roads are all over that area that they apparently never ran into? To otherwise end up there meant going north from the Gem Lake trails and over the ridge from the trail going east out of Burst Rock. Totally non-sense for anyone looking at a map to get back to Crabtree unless again they were very mixed up?
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby SSSdave » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:06 pm

ryanerb wrote:Awesome they were found!

Would love to hear feedback about how this keeps happening and so many people don't have any satellite comm devices such as a spot or PLB. This would greatly speed things up for everyone and free up time, money and resources.


It keeps happening because many in-experienced backcountry users have inadequate map skills while expecting they will be able to get by with simply following trails and trails signs. Of course not all trails are on maps, especially use trails, and many are missing or never had signs at junctions, so what do you think happens when they come to such a junction? One way leads to their destination while the other to maybe we are Lost!

Spot or PLB useful to novices or those with worrying relatives back home but unnecessary for many of we experienced enthusiasts.
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby maverick » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:16 pm

SSSdave wrote:
Totally non-sense for anyone looking at a map to get back to Crabtree unless again they were very mixed up?


Sgt. Benson adds that the two are experienced hikers and have taken the trail at least three times in the past.


This earlier quote above in the My Mother Lode from Sgt Benson does bring up some questions, it would be great if the couple would shed some light on their ordeal so this became a learning experience.
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby ryanerb » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:32 am

SSSdave wrote:
ryanerb wrote:Awesome they were found!

Spot or PLB useful to novices or those with worrying relatives back home but unnecessary for many of we experienced enthusiasts.


I would agree that the spot is not useful if you know how to read a map....

However, don't fool yourself, the spot can be helpful for other things like an injury. Imagine solo hiking and breaking your leg. Or hiking with a partner and breaking your leg. It's still going to be easier and faster to get a helicopter 30 miles into the backcountry via a SPOT rescue compared to 'your friend carrying you out' 30 miles to the trailhead to the ambulance.
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby AlmostThere » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:01 am

ryanerb wrote:
SSSdave wrote:
ryanerb wrote:Awesome they were found!

Spot or PLB useful to novices or those with worrying relatives back home but unnecessary for many of we experienced enthusiasts.


I would agree that the spot is not useful if you know how to read a map....

However, don't fool yourself, the spot can be helpful for other things like an injury. Imagine solo hiking and breaking your leg. Or hiking with a partner and breaking your leg. It's still going to be easier and faster to get a helicopter 30 miles into the backcountry via a SPOT rescue compared to 'your friend carrying you out' 30 miles to the trailhead to the ambulance.


IF IT WORKS.

Have seen it not work.

reconn.org is your best failsafe.

What has SPOT got to do with maps?????? It's not a GPS in the sense that it helps you navigate.
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Re: Missing hikers in emigrant

Postby ryanerb » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:04 am

AlmostThere wrote:
ryanerb wrote:
SSSdave wrote:
ryanerb wrote:Awesome they were found!

Spot or PLB useful to novices or those with worrying relatives back home but unnecessary for many of we experienced enthusiasts.


I would agree that the spot is not useful if you know how to read a map....

However, don't fool yourself, the spot can be helpful for other things like an injury. Imagine solo hiking and breaking your leg. Or hiking with a partner and breaking your leg. It's still going to be easier and faster to get a helicopter 30 miles into the backcountry via a SPOT rescue compared to 'your friend carrying you out' 30 miles to the trailhead to the ambulance.


IF IT WORKS.

Have seen it not work.

reconn.org is your best failsafe.

What has SPOT got to do with maps?????? It's not a GPS in the sense that it helps you navigate.


Yes, it is just another tool that has susceptibilities like all tools do.

What spot has to do with maps is that if you don't know how to read a map and get lost like 100's of hikers a year that are on the news, it will allow you to notify authorities and they will come get you... if it works. At least it increases their odds quite a bit...
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