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hman waste in Whitney Zone

Postby don norton » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:21 pm

I am hiking the JMT this Summer can anyone tell me if there is a rule that you carry out solid waste



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Postby markskor » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:29 pm

As far as I know, current "pack it out" regulations only apply in the Whitney Zone...and they conveniently provide all with the infamous Wag Bags...free too!
Coming over from the backside, you will not need to "carry" until Trail Camp and subsequently, down all the way to the Portal... look near the old solar crapper...there were piles of them there...some unused too.
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Postby gdurkee » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:42 pm

This is something I should know more about, but don't... .

There are definitely no requirements until you reach Whitney on the Forest Service side. I think (!) it's voluntary even there, though. Crabtree has been passing out bags on the NPS side. Compliance has been good. It's critical in areas like Guitar Lake (NPS side) and definitely on top of Whitney and the USFS side. But if you take a bag -- carry it out -- ALL the way out.

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Postby hikerduane » Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:25 pm

At the Portal there are cans to dispose of your wag bags at the trailhead, keep them handy. :lol: At least when I went a few years ago, I had mine buried in my pack though. :p
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Postby vaughnm » Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:40 pm

When my brother and I went through last summer, the were requiring the wag bags at Guitar Lake and above. They had a supply of them near the trail junction at Crabtree RS.

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Postby freestone » Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:26 pm

When in doubt, carry it out. The Wag bag package is flat and just as easy to pack as a plastic trowel, and it comes with a hand sanitizer so your buddy is protected. There are many stretches on the JMT where it is virtually impossible to dig a decent trench because of the granite. There are also many areas where it is easy to dig, but alot of folks still seem to miss the mark in this department.
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Postby michaeljf » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:45 pm

So what are the logistics of "packing it out"? If you are more than a day away from the trailhead, and you're in bear country, and everything...aromatic... is suppose to be kept in your bear can at night, where does a bag of smell like this fit into the picture? In the can, on the ground, lefgt in the pack, where? I haven't had to deal with this requirement yet, but I guess its a future necessity in more and more areas. (I think its one of those things you don't know until somebody tells you. Like where babies come from.) I just can't picture jamming a bag down into the pack along with all the other gear and cinching the lot down real hard. Yosemite says we're suppose to pack out TP now, too, which is almost as odorous, er, onerous. Does anybody really do that?
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Postby Snow Nymph » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:09 pm

You can hang the used wag bag outside your pack. I carry TP out, double baggies. Be sure you get rid of it at the end of the trip. It gets pretty ripe sitting in the pack all week. :puke:
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Postby Rosabella » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:00 am

Yosemite says we're suppose to pack out TP now, too, which is almost as odorous, er, onerous. Does anybody really do that?


Yup! It's not as bad as you are probably imagining.... as Snow Nymph said - just double bag it. I keep used TP in a zip-lock INSIDE another zip lock with my Trowel, and stored on an outside pocket. No big deal. On the few occasions that I have a campfire, I'll burn it then.

There's nothing worse than coming across used toilet paper behind some tree that someone obviously made no attempt to bury. Yuck! :puke:
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Postby ndwoods » Wed May 02, 2007 2:01 am

The wag bags at crabtree they were passing out last year were nice, and I assume they will do it again this year. And please yes, if you are asking about TP in your definition of "solid waste," then please yes pack it out. I probably found TP on the JMT in 50 spots last year! :(
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Postby maverick » Wed May 02, 2007 5:49 pm

Use 2 freezer zip lock bags with a little baking soda in it for your TP!
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Postby Snow Nymph » Wed May 02, 2007 10:37 pm

maverick wrote:Use 2 freezer zip lock bags with a little baking soda in it for your TP!


good idea! I'll try that!
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