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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby thepreciselife » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:47 pm

maverick wrote:
So I can take the trail to LLV then venture off to Hidden Lakes or any of the other areas
around there for a little more solitude?


http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/inyo/rec ... 4&actid=51


Woo! Permits are available, but when I look for it on the 2 maps of this area, I can't find LLV
http://www.recreation.gov/marketing/htm ... thLake.pdf
http://www.recreation.gov/marketing/htm ... igPine.pdf
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby maverick » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:11 pm

I went to Rec.gov and found it: Little Lakes Valley JM09
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby thepreciselife » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:48 pm

..........and, their are none available for that Friday.
So I called and asked about getting a permit the day of, but they said theyre not available til 11 and that of course will cause us to lose about 3hrs of hiking time for the day. Also, since theyre available from the day before, they might all be gone by the time I can go in there.
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby rlown » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:15 pm

As someone here already pointed out, don't focus in on one area and feel bummed out that you can't get a permit. Look around a bit. There are hundreds of TR's on this site, and the Sierra is generally pretty regardless of where you end up.

Also, even if you have a 55L pack, do not feel compelled to make it heavy for a 3 day trip. You will just hate it.

I liked Mav's suggestion about renting gear until you figure out your longer term strategy. Gear costs, and good gear costs more!
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby maverick » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:22 pm

Don't worry about when you can start, just score a permit, you can be at Hidden
Lake in a little over an hour from the trailhead.
Also don't forget 20 Lakes Basin out of Saddlebag Lake (just east of Tioga Pass),
a gorgeous place with numerous beautiful lakes and towering Mount Conness with
the pretty emerald green Conness Lakes under it. It is as easy to access as LLV, here
are some shots of that area: https://www.google.com/search?q=mount+c ... h&imgdii=_

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Exactly, no sense spending several hundred dollars on a quality bag and pad until
your sure. I may be able to help you save a little money when your ready to
purchase (PM me when ready).
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby thepreciselife » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:44 pm

Well if I can make it to that area that fast from the trail head do you
think it'd be worth the risk of trying to get a first come first serve permit that day?
Also, since its completely booked online, that prob means its going to kinda crowded that weekend.
So maybe I should look into another area, that one was very beautiful though but I am sure everything
in the Sierras is beautiful.

As for the weight, I def will not be trying to max out my bag, but I will be carrying more than my gf. haha

20 lakes thru Saddlebag looks nice too, but because of the resort in the area, and "lake" taxi,
I feel like it would def be more crowded than LLV.

Back to the drawing boards?
...or just stick to Chain Lakes haha
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby maverick » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:55 pm

Honestly I think you should wait another month (Aug), the last thing you want to
do is introduce yourselves to the Sierra/backpacking during the height of mosquito
season, it could be your first and last trip. I know many people who avoid mosquito
season, and plan their trip before or after. If you go in Aug, not only will you avoid
those little blood sucking vampires, but also have better chance to go at a time
when securing permits will not be as difficult, and the masses will not be out.
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby rlown » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:05 pm

An example from Chain lakes mid July 2010:

Chain Lks 2010 032.JPG
Lunch among the bugs


Note the coverage head to toe, the gloves and the headnet. June or August are better choices.
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby thepreciselife » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:13 pm

I wish I could re-schedule but besides it being my birthday, its the only
3 day weekend my gf will have anytime soon since she just started a new job so
we wanted to take advantage of it.
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby maverick » Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:13 pm

If you want to go backpacking for you birthday and not donating blood in the Sierra,
go backpacking on Catalina Island. Closer to you, good weather, lots of fun(romantic),
and a non stressful intro to backpacking.

PS. Found this cool backpacking TR, check it out: http://150mph.planetrambler.com/100413- ... index.html
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby thepreciselife » Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:20 pm

maverick wrote:If you want to go backpacking for you birthday and not donating blood in the Sierra,
go backpacking on Catalina Island. Closer to you, good weather, lots of fun(romantic),
and a non stressful intro to backpacking.

PS. Found this cool TR, check it out: http://150mph.planetrambler.com/100413- ... index.html


So no matter where I set up camp or go to in the Sierras, I will be swarmed by mosquitoes ALL DAY?
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Re: 3 day / 2 night Backpacking for beginners.

Postby maverick » Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:37 pm

The mountains are weird, you can be on one side of a ridge and have a Level 1
grading and go to the other and have level 5. Staying away from marshy/swampy
areas, and certain lakes that have a reputation as being mosquito factories help.
Wind is you best friend, and setting up in an open area, or near a ridge where the
wind can be constant can keep them at bay. Reading the Mosquito Avoidance
Techniques thread posted earlier can get you prepared in dealing with the situation,
if you encounter them, and make your stay much more enjoyable. No one can
tell you exactly what you will encounter in any particular area, the conditions can
change on a daily basis.
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