Conditions Request - Elizabeth Pass (SEKI)

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Conditions Request - Elizabeth Pass (SEKI)

Post by grampy » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:40 am

I’m doing a loop that includes Elizabeth Pass (N to S) around Aug 16 - with visits to Tamarack Lake and (hopefully) Big Bird Lake. I know conditions can/will change a lot by then; just wondering if anyone has been that way lately. Thanks!








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Re: Conditions Request - Elizabeth Pass (SEKI)

Post by cgundersen » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:38 am

The various folk who were going to Mav's meetup (including, Mav) should be able to give you a heads up; maybe send them a PM. cameron

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Re: Conditions Request - Elizabeth Pass (SEKI)

Post by potatopants » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:02 am

Please share here whatever you hear from them. Heading out on Sat and still up in the air about my route, which ideally is the same as yours I believe. Thanks!

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Re: Conditions Request - Elizabeth Pass (SEKI)

Post by Rockyroad » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:27 pm

I only made it as far as Lake 11,200 near Big Bird Peak. I have some photos in the direction of Elizabeth Pass. They do not show the actual pass but might give you an idea of what to expect.
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Re: Conditions Request - Elizabeth Pass (SEKI)

Post by grampy » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:14 pm

Rockroad -
Thanks! I had previously read (and very much enjoyed) your report, but am going over your photos again. Unless more snow/ice has melted in the last couple weeks, I may defer my wished-for side trip to Big Bird Lake to a future trip. I know that your “it never got steeper than this” photo does NOT apply to Eliz. Pass, but the amounts of visible snow (and lake ice) were informative.

Cameron - yes, I sent a p.m. to a couple folks;
Potatopants - if they find the time to reply I will post here (or at least forward info to you by p.m.).

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Re: Conditions Request - Elizabeth Pass (SEKI)

Post by maverick » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:25 pm

Sorry, but did not get any views of EP, went to the Meetup via Clouds Canyon, exited via Deadman Canyon, but this section did not have views of EP due to the turn of the canyon further south.
Alpinemike and Rogue will have info on that area, until then, I did find a report with two pic's from 7/27, that will give you an idea of the current conditions, hope they help in making your decision.
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Re: Conditions Request - Elizabeth Pass (SEKI)

Post by oldranger » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:46 pm

From my experience in the area the biggest hazard given these two photos is falling thru a snow bridge that is not apparent due to the size of the snowfields. my advice as you hit the snowfield above Upper Ranger is to keep on the east side of Deadman away from the lowest portion of the canyon until you breach the headwall and the flower garden to the east of the headwall where the second photo was taken. you should pick up the trail here until topping the headwall (historically known as Death Falls). Then cross to the west side of the canyon and work your way up to Elizabeth Pass where the suncups could either be helpful or tedious depending on how deep they are. Unless icy the steepness of the n. side of Elizabeth is not particularly challenging. Early afternoon on a normal summer day should make for ok travel without postholing or ice.
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Re: Conditions Request - Elizabeth Pass (SEKI)

Post by grampy » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:20 pm

oldranger wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:46 pm
... historically known as Death Falls ...
well, that sounds reassuring :lol:
Seriously though, your detailed description (and things to watch out for) is extremely helpful; I will copy to take with me.
Thank you !

Maverick- thank you.
Yes, I did get helpful info from Alpinemike today (via PM); his input, together with your referenced photos and oldrangers reply leave me with a wealth of info and enough reassurance to stick with my plan.

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