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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby Jimr » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:29 pm

Eric,
I truly appreciate that you are sharing more of who you are.
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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby Shawn » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:33 pm

Wow Eric, glad to know the others are okay - but holy smokes must have been your lucky day to miss the crash landing.

Last time I was up in a heli-for-hire, we were off shore over the pacific a mile or two well past dusk when the pilot informed me that he didn't have the quals or nav gear to fly at night. Geez, he might have spoken up a bit earlier.

Great photos, hope you can post more.
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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby ERIC » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:59 pm

Jimr wrote:Eric,
I truly appreciate that you are sharing more of who you are.


Thanks. Where I live and what I do for work have never been a mystery to those whom are truly interested and skillful in searching the backgrounds of people on the internet. ;)
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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby Jimr » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:12 pm

You do a wonderful job Eric. I am very good at internet research when it comes to people, companies and my job. I have no desire to research those who I consider brethren. I have grades in water treatment technology from the state of California, but that was another life. I truly enjoy your sharing of the above. It intrigues me.
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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby Tom_H » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:56 am

Eric, does that chopper have special footpads to support its weight on soft snow-something like snowshoes? If so, do they deploy after takeoff from a standard helipad?
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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby ERIC » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:44 am

Update: http://abc30.com/news/helicopter-crew-s ... t/1723416/
Man, that's more than a thousand feet higher up than I had assumed. These guys do survey the highest elevation snow course in the Sierra though, so guess I shouldn't be all that surprised.


Yes, it has pads that look like snowshoes affixed to the rear of the landing runners. The rear stays afloat while the pilot intentionally sinks the front of the craft into the snow and bounces the front like a '64 Impala until the snow is firm enough to shut the engine down for debarking.
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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby maverick » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:31 am

Always looking for suggestions.


A good survival training course, particularly emphasizing winter situations. You can carry all the right gear, but if you do not now how to use it or if you loose all of it in a crash, you will be forced to improvise from whatever mother nature has available to survive.
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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby ERIC » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:18 am

Two of us had taken a course, two of us hadn't. Probably best that everyone has though.
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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby ERIC » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:11 am

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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby rlown » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:15 am

Nice. I'm thinking an engine swap on location is probably not going to happen. Glad they're ok.
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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby SSSdave » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:50 am

Interesting equipment list Eric. No doubt you all enjoy looking at all the baby butt smooth pristine snow landscapes.
But were me looking at all that, my tongue would start hanging out salivating like Pavlov's dog and wanting to add my Rossignol S7 fat skis.

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Re: Conditions for snow survey crews

Postby ERIC » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:21 pm

David -
It is tough! The top layer of new snow from the last storm was lighter than we're typically used to in the Sierra. Reminded me of Colorado pow. I wanted so badly to run around and explore but we were so damn busy fighting the clock to get as much data as we could before sundown that it was hard enough even getting a hand free to take some pics/vids, grab a bite, drink some water, etc. If I were the pilot, who typically sits and waits until we're ready to move on, it'd be a different story!
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