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Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby maverick » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:26 pm

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Re: Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby oldranger » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:06 am

130% was one site. Statewide snowpack is 117% according tohttp://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/snow/COURSES. Kings and San Joaquin are about average. Drainages to south and eastside south are still below average! Merced river north above average. There are still a few stations unchecked which could up the total for Kern river drainage and eastern sierra s. of Mammoth.

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Re: Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby Lisalu22 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:09 am

So, this is only my second year reading the forum, and trying to plan a trip, we are hoping to hike Rae lakes loop, with this much snow what do you think would be an ideal time to go?
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Re: Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby AlmostThere » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:27 am

Lisalu22 wrote:So, this is only my second year reading the forum, and trying to plan a trip, we are hoping to hike Rae lakes loop, with this much snow what do you think would be an ideal time to go?


August. Less of a chance of mosquitoes, too. If you want no mosquitoes and the surety of no snow, September is optimal.

ETA: I suspect part of the concern is the popularity of the Rae loop and the SEKI permit system opening reservations in March. Consider the importance of getting a reservation vs. needing to know how much snow there is -- if it is more important to have a permit for a specific week in advance get a later permit. If dates can be flexible, consider waiting and either trying for a reservation later in the year, or doing a walk in -- a pretty good number of advance reservations never turn into trips. People who plan far in advance often have things come up by the time of the trip and can't go. If you're taking one or two other people that might be the way to go.
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Re: Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby maverick » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:46 am

So, this is only my second year reading the forum, and trying to plan a trip, we are hoping to hike Rae lakes loop, with this much snow what do you think would be an ideal time to go?


Wait and see what the next couple of months bring us.
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Re: Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby Lisalu22 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:34 pm

@almost there. September is not an option for us and unfortunately we do need to plan a specific date range since we are flying in. I wish we lived close enough to wing it! Last year end of June we tried and unfortunately we could not finish the loop because my husband got sick! Hoping to complete it this year.

@maverick, I have a little time to plan, thanks! I'll keep reading for updates!
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Re: Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby maverick » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:13 pm

@maverick, I have a little time to plan, thanks! I'll keep reading for updates!


Oh yeah, your husband got sick on that trip, shoot for mid August then Lisa, mosquitoes should be okay by then.

PS Thursday, Aug 18th is full moon, if that matters to you.
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Re: Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby JWreno » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:03 pm

Had to cancel our trip last year because of work obligations. I am ready to pull the trigger on my permit in a few weeks for an August trip. We plan on doing a SHR section from Piute Pass to MgGee Creek. Should have great scenery without JMT type crowds. I have two extended family wedding trips back east to attend so I can't take more than a week for the hike. We have been getting a lot more winter weather in Reno this year. Our water situation should improve some.

Unless you want to see high water, I think August or September weather is the most pleasant.
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Re: Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby SweetSierra » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:19 am

JWreno, that's such a beautiful route. On one trip we went from Piute Pass over Feather Pass, White Bear Pass, Gabbot Pass, down Mono Creek to Florence Lake. I've been from south to north from Mono Pass to Laurel Lake to the McGee Pass trailhead twice and once in the other direction on a counter clockwise loop from Mono Pass. Crossing the Silver Divide on the HSR is one of my favorite routes. I would think August would be good for encountering less snow. On two trips in August, there was snow at the top of Bighorn Pass but it was easily passed. Shout-of-Relief Pass is so low angled on the north side that I don't think snow there would be a problem. When we went there was no snow on the south side. On the trip where we encountered the most snow on that route, McGee Pass had a couple of narrow steep sections of trail that were still buried under snow and hadn't been trampled by horses or people. We had to cross these sections very carefully as a slip meant a long slide to rocks. We had a dog with us, which was even trickier. The McGee Pass Trail was great, though, very pretty.
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Re: Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby Lisalu22 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:08 pm

maverick wrote:
@maverick, I have a little time to plan, thanks! I'll keep reading for updates!


Oh yeah, your husband got sick on that trip, shoot for mid August then Lisa, mosquitoes should be okay by then.

PS Thursday, Aug 18th is full moon, if that matters to you.



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Re: Snow pack at 130% of average

Postby Tom_H » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:27 pm

Going back to the original topic, this is worrisome news. Why, one might ask. Firstly, this isn't much above normal in a water starved state. Secondly, this is the largest El Nino on record. Much larger snow packs have come from El Ninos considerably weaker than this one. Thirdly, the El Nino was predicted to fade away by some point in February. IDK if is this is still true, but if it fades and the precipitation suddenly drops off, we could still wind up below normal for the season. Most reservoirs are still below normal. The big question is, with El Nino gone, will weather patterns stabilize, or will we slip right back into the drought?
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