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2014 Reliable Water Sources / Long Dry Sections

Postby maverick » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:27 pm

Last year we had a "Reliable Water Sources 2013" thread, and with this year
again being a drought year, this could be a very helpful resource in which we
can collecting info to help members getting ready to embark on their trips, or
for those who are planning a trip for the mid to late season.
With the extremely dry conditions that we are experiencing, which
unfortunately will continue to get worse as we approach the mid to late
season, it would be extremely helpful if members would chime in on running
streams/creeks or extremely long, dry sections they encountered. Not talking
about every little creek, but named creeks, the ones that cross or are near the
trails that anyone going through that area would normally count on as water
source.
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Yosemite 5/16

Postby Wandering Daisy » Fri May 16, 2014 8:18 pm

Yosemite - 5/16

Small snowmelt streams still running- barely

Plenty of small trickles on Merced Lake trail between bridge above Bunnell Falls and bridge at Echo Valley

Echo Valley essentially dry (not flooded), major tributary to Merced still good flow

Small trickles on trail from Echo Valley to JMT, with unnamed creek (not on map), where trail crosses still pretty good - more water than Sunrise Creek

Sunrise Creek below cross-trail to Merced Lake - very low, already has algal blooms

Unnamed creek at JMT (Clouds Rest trail jct), slightly more than Sunrise Creek

One small trickle on trail to Clouds Rest

Snowfields on north side of Clouds Rest summit (you could still camp up there and melt snow for water)

Four Mile Trail - only one small creek down low
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Upper Merced 6/15-6/24

Postby oldranger » Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:00 pm

Warning! Just returned from upper Merced. There was just enough water that I did not carry any. For the next month assume that only major streams will have flowing water. After that water sources will be extremely limited. That is why I am heading back to Oregon in early July (not to mention I miss my wife!)

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Re: Upper Merced 6/15-6/24

Postby robow8 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:30 pm

oldranger wrote:Warning! Just returned from upper Merced. There was just enough water that I did not carry any. For the next month assume that only major streams will have flowing water. After that water sources will be extremely limited. That is why I am heading back to Oregon in early July (not to mention I miss my wife!)

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I will be doing a loop out of HI in late August. HI to Illilouette/Clark Fork to Lower Ottoway Lake over Red Peak Pass to Merced Lake to LYV to HI. How do you think water will be then?
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Re: 2014 Reliable Water Sources / Long Dry Sections

Postby oldranger » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:20 pm

My guess is that it will be really dry up to Ottoway, after you cross the Merced. there are several ponds between Ottoway and Merced peak fork. I suspect there will be a trickle in Merced peak and triple peak forks. Each have large pools (Merced fork below the red peak pass trail is my favorite campsite in the Sierra) that will have water. Downstream there will be water in the river.

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Re: 2014 Reliable Water Sources / Long Dry Sections

Postby mblakely » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:07 pm

Yosemite
July 6-10, 2014

Tenaya Lake to Clouds Rest junction - first of the two lakes just prior to the junction has lots of water.
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Several small creeks crossing the trail after the lake have small flow, but probably taste better than the lake.
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Upper sunrise creek, where the JMT meets the trail north to Tenaya Lake and the trail West to Echo Valley is about 3 feet wide and has good flow.
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Lower sunrise creek at LYV is dry. Hard to tell exactly where the water all disappears underground.

Merced River at LYV has lots and lots of water.
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Re: 2014 Reliable Water Sources / Long Dry Sections

Postby JTK555 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:13 pm

Does anybody know the current conditions of the West Walker River near Leavitt Meadows? I'm thinking about backpacking there mid September.
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Re: 2014 Reliable Water Sources / Long Dry Sections

Postby uneaqs » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:41 am

I'm also interested in how much water is do be found on the stretch from Leavitt Meadows up to Tower Lake. Planning a trip there in September. Seems like it might be very dry this year :(

Thanks in advance for any info.
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Re: 2014 Reliable Water Sources / Long Dry Sections - Granite Cr

Postby Troutdog 59 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:41 am

My wife and I checked out the Granite Creek area yesterday and the creeks in this region are as low as I've ever seen them and I've visited the area at least once a year the last 20. Chiqito Creek and Granite Creek, two of the regions largest streams ar/e mere trickles that disappear completely in the areas with more alluvium. In the campground area at Granite Creek, there was waterin the big pools at the north end, then it disappeared in the alluvium of the meadow area, only to reappear where the bedrock outcrops near the old footbridge. I wouldn't count on stream water if hiking the Ansel Adams Wilderness out of here. The best place to "hydrate" in the region is Wagners Store at Mammoth Pool. They are reducing their inventory of draft beer!!!! Sierra Nevada, Blue Moon, and 805 drafts for $1.50. Couldn't resist a couple of cold ones and a great sandwich while talking with the friendly staff. Picked up a couple t_shirts as well. The fire and drought have hit them hard this year. If your in the area, stop by and help them out a little.
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Re: 2014 Reliable Water Sources / Long Dry Sections

Postby flyzapper » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:05 pm

Has anybody been to Rowell Meadow recently? Is there water flowing in the streams around Rowell Meadow and on the south side of JO Pass?
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Re: 2014 Reliable Water Sources / Long Dry Sections

Postby tim » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:28 am

There's no water at Rowell Meadow. We went over to Belle Canyon on Labor Day weekend and there is a very small unpleasant muddy puddle on the way up from Rowell Meadow to the pass. That's all until you get to the Seville/Ranger/Lost Lake junction at the bottom of Belle Canyon, where Sugarloaf Creek is flowing with a very modest amount of water. Nothing higher up until you get to Seville though. We didn't go to JO so can't help you there.
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Re: 2014 Reliable Water Sources / Long Dry Sections

Postby flyzapper » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:21 pm

tim wrote:There's no water at Rowell Meadow. We went over to Belle Canyon on Labor Day weekend and there is a very small unpleasant muddy puddle on the way up from Rowell Meadow to the pass. That's all until you get to the Seville/Ranger/Lost Lake junction at the bottom of Belle Canyon, where Sugarloaf Creek is flowing with a very modest amount of water. Nothing higher up until you get to Seville though. We didn't go to JO so can't help you there.


I decided to take a reconnoissance trip before our planned backpacking trip, and I actually found one stream in the middle of Rowell Meadow itself, towards the Eastern side. It supplied plenty of water for our group during the actual trip.
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