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Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby lensman137 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:24 pm

Has anyone out there had any problems accessing trailheads? Specifically Crabtree and Gianelli Cabin in Stanislaus NF? Called Aspen Meadows Pack station, but got no answer. Pinecrest Resort didn't know if the road was gated or not.



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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby rlown » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:02 am

Hunting season is in full swing now across CA. They wouldn't be gating/locking anything other than campgrounds (require "maintenance") and those areas out of bounds. If they do, the hunting access to public lands are not so much NF as CDFW. Lots paid a LOT of money to hunt this state.

Besides.. All hunters carry a 2 stroke gate cutter. :D
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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby thegib » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:09 pm

I'm sure gate cutters can be really useful, but what's of concern to some of us is whether we find a hefty ticket waiting on our windshield. For those of us who have a long commute to our favored stomping grounds challenging a ticket by showing up at 8 am at the not at all local courthouse isn't an attractive option.
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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby KathyW » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:00 pm

If there is a gate, don't count on it being open.
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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby takotruckin » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:48 pm

KathyW wrote:If there is a gate, don't count on it being open.


Not entirely accurate. In the shaver/courtright area all the gates are still open even on the 4x4 trails. I didn't go by any hosted campgrounds, so I can't say if they were open.
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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby julianb » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:05 pm

Got back last night from an overnighter from Gianelli to Granite Lake. I camped at Pinecrest Lake on Thu night before I headed out the following morning - not sure if that is still open or not. Had no issues at Gianelli trailhead, in fact there were way more cars parked there than I expected and I ran into 5-10 groups on the trail both days. Actually, I didn't even see a single sign of anything being closed - besides, of course, the fact that I didn't stop by the ranger station to pick up a permit.
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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby lensman137 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:45 pm

Thanks for the info. Since Gianelli isn't a campground, just a parking lot and trailhead it's likely that it will be accessible a week from now (I friggin hope!) Crabtree campground is definitely closed, and the gate probably locked.
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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby gary c. » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:47 am

I tried a couple times last week to call Sequoia NF about a permit for GTW and got the no funds message and even fax'd an ap with no reply. Decided to go anyways and stopped by the NFS office in Kernville and found the permit book in the drop box and filled it out.
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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby RichardCullip » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:47 pm

gary c. wrote:I tried a couple times last week to call Sequoia NF about a permit for GTW and got the no funds message and even fax'd an ap with no reply. Decided to go anyways and stopped by the NFS office in Kernville and found the permit book in the drop box and filled it out.


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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby gary c. » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:55 pm

Richard, it was a great weekend. The bite is picking up with the cooler water temps. My best fish was 16" with a lot of smaller ones. The night time temps got down to 38. I surprised myself coming out and made it from the river to TH in an hour and 15min.
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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby HikeSierraNevada » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:49 pm

julianb wrote:Got back last night from an overnighter from Gianelli to Granite Lake. I camped at Pinecrest Lake on Thu night before I headed out the following morning - not sure if that is still open or not. Had no issues at Gianelli trailhead, in fact there were way more cars parked there than I expected and I ran into 5-10 groups on the trail both days. Actually, I didn't even see a single sign of anything being closed - besides, of course, the fact that I didn't stop by the ranger station to pick up a permit.

I'm not surprised by your report. Emigrant Wilderness is one of the least regulated wilderness areas anywhere - no trail quotas, no bear canisters, and they allow campfires when others don't.
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Re: Access to National Forest trailheads during shutdown

Postby canukyea » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:19 am

Minarets Road was open all the way to a few miles before Granite Creek. Don't know about the campground itself because I didn't go that far.
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