Is California Ready For The Grizzly Bear, Again?

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Re: Is California Ready For The Grizzly Bear, Again?

Post by Jimr » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:19 pm

I'm sure we'll all be fine. Until our children start to disappear.


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Re: Is California Ready For The Grizzly Bear, Again?

Post by rlown » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:56 pm

We'd all be fine, regardless. Bears will hit the Deli's first.

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Re: Is California Ready For The Grizzly Bear, Again?

Post by Jimr » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:36 pm

Actually, I think they'd hit the roach coaches first. Push them over and partake, then maybe the deli, then....Starbucks? Yikes, that's where the kids hang out :eek:
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Re: Is California Ready For The Grizzly Bear, Again?

Post by Wandering Daisy » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:14 am

If grizzlies get into populated areas, I think our pets will be the first target- small tasty morsels. Where grizzlies have been re-introduced, their main targets have been livestock and game, not people. Occasionally a solo trail runner- pretty stupid thing to do in grizzly country- what were they thinking?

In Wyoming, the grizzlies have done perhaps too good of a job (along with wolves) of cutting down the elk overpopulation, to the chagrin of hunters. However, the reintroduction seems to be working so far but is VERY controversial. Extreme climate events could force the grizzlies down into more populated areas. The big difference is that "more populated" in Wyoming is totally different than in California- the entire state has barely half the population of Sacramento! I think California has simply surpassed the population density to successfully re-introduce grizzlies. Grizzlies certainly could cut down the over-population of costal range deer, but that would likely lead to poor outcomes with human interactions. Consider the cost to public land agencies simply to relocate and reduce encounters with black bears. I cannot see there are enough resources to safely add grizzlies in California (or enough data on long-term effects from states where the grizzlies have been introduced), whether you like the idea or not.

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Re: Is California Ready For The Grizzly Bear, Again?

Post by rlown » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:02 am

c'mon.. just a couple or 6 grizzly bears.. Could break up the day. We'd all be required to carry bear cans in everyday life. :)
My horse might not like that, but..

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