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Old Tree Carvings
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:14 am
by RoguePhotonic
Re: Old Tree Carvings
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:31 pm
by Rockchucker
Fascinating, thanks for posting this.
Re: Old Tree Carvings
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:06 pm
by dave54
Let the speculation begin!
Other 'old' carvings you may see is two rectangles atop each other. The upper one is vertical and about thrice as tall as wide (typically 2-3" wide), the second one under it (sometimes over it) half as tall as wide -- like an exclamation point.
Those are old trail blazes, formerly used to mark trails before the invention of reflectors and other newer trail markers. Some are still around, but no longer used or maintained, as they damage the tree.
When trying to follow an old abandoned trail the blazes may be the only way to follow the original route. They can be healed over and it takes a sharp eye to detect the irregularities in the bark pattern where they filled in.
Re: Old Tree Carvings
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:49 pm
by RoguePhotonic
I have seen some cairns marked on trees in places I never thought there was a trail. For example Orchid Lake. If you stay sharp you can follow marked trees to the lake.
Re: Old Tree Carvings
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:13 am
by rlown
dave54 wrote:Let the speculation begin!
Other 'old' carvings you may see is two rectangles atop each other. The upper one is vertical and about thrice as tall as wide (typically 2-3" wide), the second one under it (sometimes over it) half as tall as wide -- like an exclamation point.
Those are old trail blazes, formerly used to mark trails before the invention of reflectors and other newer trail markers. Some are still around, but no longer used or maintained, as they damage the tree.
When trying to follow an old abandoned trail the blazes may be the only way to follow the original route. They can be healed over and it takes a sharp eye to detect the irregularities in the bark pattern where they filled in.
I am sometimes amazed by those blazes "!" They seem really high on the tree, so either the tree grew and it rose up, or they blazed it on horseback, or during winter. I've no clue about the history of those, other than the use of an ax.
Re: Old Tree Carvings
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:52 pm
by RoguePhotonic
Some of those are high on the tree to be above the snow line for winter travels.
Re: Old Tree Carvings
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:20 pm
by gdurkee
Well, I'm having fun catching up on ancient posts after long absence....
There's all sorts of carvings throughout the Sierra. I think the ones here posted by Rogue are likely regularly used sheep or cow camps during the grazing era. The lower end of Evolution Meadow has one: "Green Brothers Cow Camp" and I've seen others here and there. The best are Basque carvings. Usually figures,often women (it's lonely on the frontier, with only sheep....). There's a bunch of these just south of Tioga Pass but some more at Evolution Meadow but throughout the Sierra at the old camps.
As far as trail blazes go, they come in all kinds. The US Cavalry would mark a "T" in Yosemite. Many of these are high up because they were, as you guessed, on horse when chopped in. Few of these mark snow routes since there was no snow travel in the early days. The snow routes started in the 50s and are marked with license plates (e.g. coming down into Lower Crabtree Meadow from Rock Creek; or the Ostrander Trail). Lots of old abandoned trails here and there. The archival USGS maps are now online and you can find them more easily (ca 1900). The other day, someone was asking me about the old army trail that stayed high from above Nevada Falls over to Merced Lake. That was marked by the army "T" and still sorta followable into the 70s.
Re: Old Tree Carvings
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:35 pm
by RoguePhotonic
Cindy led me to these two Basque carvings one in Deadman Canyon the other at Big Bird Lake:
I was unable to locate the second carving she told me was a bit further up canyon from the guitar guy.
Re: Old Tree Carvings
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:06 pm
by gary c.
gdurkee, thanks for the info. I have seen a couple of license plates and wondered what they were doing so high up in the trees. One was on the way up the Mono Creek trail almost to Mono Pass. There are a lot of turn of the century carvings in the aspens along Mono Creek. We actually used a series of the old exclamation point markers one day to follow the trail on a snowy covered trip in the Dinkey Lakes area.